Kari says:
Thu, 10th Jul 20089:57 am 

I'm down with the look but don't touch policy too. I abide by the same rules when I go to male strip clubs (although I am motivated by $10 all you can drink and the sight of hot guys in ridiculously flamboyant thongs doing the flappy dance. Priceless).

Stephanie says:
Thu, 10th Jul 200810:32 am 

I don't care if my guy goes to a strip club (just as long as it doesn't happen all the time, in which he is, in my book, trashy as hell and about to be dumped). I don't care about strippers because I know it's just a one time thing and he won't be seeing her again.

Erica - Kent State says:
Thu, 10th Jul 200811:53 am 

I think that I may be biased because two of my best childhood friends have been or are currently strippers, so I know how they feel about most of the guys that they give lap dances to, etc. They treat their job at the strip joint like I treat mine in the Fin Aid file room — like a job, one that can be exciting & fun at times and dreadfully boring at others. Knowing their side of the story makes me pretty apathetic to the way my man acts at a strip club. Usually, I'm right there with him. If not I'm not, though, all I can do is tell myself that he's out to have a good time – & if I trust him (like I should if we're in a relationship), then I just tell him to have fun & not get too sh*tfaced….cause there is no way in hell I'm picking him & his annoying friends up at a strip club @ 3am. =)

aly says:
Thu, 10th Jul 200812:33 pm 

i went to vegas with my younger (underage bf)and we went to a bunch of strip clubs. I dont conside myself bisexual but i enjoy hot chicks too. The compromise for me and my bf was no lap dances for him i got a few. i had fun- he got to have a nice time watching me have fun but at the end of the day his hand were only on me (although im sure he was picturing the stripper in bed with us too but whats wrong with attle imagination?)

Beth says:
Thu, 10th Jul 200812:54 pm 

ehh.. I'm touchy about this one… it wouldn't have been so bad had my now-hubby dated a stripper in the past… not just any stripper but the skankiest B*Tch you can imagine… and she was totally rude… anyway, that sullied my opinion so I can't really say I don't mind if he goes to a strip club…

I guess as long as it's not the one she's STILL working at… then I go by the no touch policy.

ela says:
Fri, 11th Jul 200812:19 am 

I can’t believe that men get off on some random naked chick who is thinking about paying her rent while she’s rubbing her tits in his face. It just boggles my mind. do they ignore the facts or what?

I have tits, i’m hot and i can dance like a stripper…but is it just the fact that they don’t know each other that makes it hot?

I guess what i’m trying to say is i don’t understand the psychology of the stripper-going men. When in a group…it’s like ‘man power’ they all feed off of one another but what about those dudes that go alone? I’ll never get it.

Yeah i occasionally like seeing a hot chick but for us women it’s more of a way to compare yourself to other women physically/sensually- or asking yourself…’can i do that hanging upside-down with one leg out thing?’

I dread bachelor parties and thankfully my man ‘hates sluts’ bc of his conservative view on women but at the same time …he’s a DUDE, that can be one great cover for 'everyday sluts' that walk on the street but i know he’s going to pop a boner on some other chick’s hoo haa and it makes me want to choke someone!

jess says:
Fri, 11th Jul 20089:26 am 

Yeah, I'm pretty touchy about this subject. It's really odd, because being completely honest (and I know its gonna sound bad) I know I'm a hot chick, I have a ton of confidence and yet I still have self-esteem issues too. (comes with being a girl I guess) I'm constantly comparing myself to other girls when my boyfriend is around. (He used to be a big ol' slut when he was single, so that might be part of it, I dunno.) So I want him looking at me, not some other girl, especially a naked one! lol

Anyways, I can't even imagine knowing he was in some strip club with some chick bent over, rubbing her ass in his face. Its infuriating. Maybe its just because I have issues, but I'm really, really uncomfortable with that idea.

Also, because since most of my friends are guys, I've heard several stories about these girls giving out their numbers and actually meeting these guys later on… to some its not just strictly a job. I mean, there are sluts at any work place.

I just dont trust anyone who is:

A. Rubbing HER ass in a taken man's face. (Not that she would know that…)

or

B. A guy in a relationship choosing to have another girl's ass in HIS face…

Just feels like betrayal to me… "shrugs"

Ryan says:
Fri, 11th Jul 20081:08 pm 

As a guy who has visited a strip club or two and enjoyed himself, maybe I help?

When we visit a strip club, it's more of the fantasy then anything else. A place we can go to and just be… well men. That story about that stripper that offers a little "extra"? I would say 90% time pure BS. As Chris Rock says, "there is no sex in the Champaign room". Stripper are all about appearing to be available, but never are ( unless the place is a real dump )

So unless your guy is A. Going every weekend or

B. Going by himself all the time, you have nothing to worry about. After all while we are working up our appetite there, we are coming home to you to eat!

Lucy says:
Sat, 12th Jul 20084:07 pm 

I wouldn't have a problem with a boyfriend going to a stripclub once in a blue moon with some friends or something. Hell, I'd even go with him. People fantasize about other people even when they're madly in love. It's human nature. And if you're both faithful and honest, what's the difference?

kasie says:
Sun, 13th Jul 20085:11 pm 

Ok, my boyfriend has a very rowdy group of guy friends who i might add are all single. and they visit the strip club together it just makes me sick to my stomach thinking my guy is getting a boner from some naked chick who he doesnt know. I agree with what another girl said. it feels like betrayal. I am not about to tell my boyfriend to stop going because he will most likely think i am needy, insecure, and jealous. which jealous and insecure are true when it comes to this case. It just doesnt seem right that a taken man wants to go see some other chicks boobs when his girlfriend has perfectly good ones that she is willing to show ne time he wants.

Jaime says:
Mon, 14th Jul 20087:36 pm 

A message to Kelly, the writer of this article: Why do you feel the need to try to justify your perception of strippers? If you offend them, so what? thats fine, im sure they can handle it-you know theyve heard it a million times before. I feel a little sad and think of the good ol "what has this world come to?" thought when you dont even feel comfortable saying that you think strippers are disgusting human beings. Are you afraid of losing readers? Here, I can do it for you: I personally know a couple strippers and I think of them as pathetic degenerates. They are nothing more than lazy parasites who dont want to bother to put in the time for a real job, when they can stay at home all day and then sell themselves out for a couple hours, make a ton of money, which will go towards fuelling their coke/shopping addictions/supporting their illegitimate children. They are worthless whores with no soul, no true worth, and I really do believe in karma so good luck to them in their futures….

Sammie says:
Mon, 14th Jul 200811:09 pm 

This is a tough one but I'm totaly going to be honest… My husband is not going to waste OUR money on some chick who is trying to get a boob job… I understand that this is just for "FUN", But if he wants to have fun I can for sure show him a great time and for free! Luckily we have talked about this subject and He feels the same way and thinks that it's not only a waste of money also degrading to his relationship with me…But pretty degrading for the poor soul who is walking around naked for dollar bills..Plus I don't want him comming home with some kinda of STD on his face or clothing…

Kelly - UMass says:
Tue, 15th Jul 20083:23 am 

In regards to Jaime's post and – as the writer of this article – I'd like to comment. I do not disrespect strippers and that was the point of not bashing them in this article. As I said, it's their job and their choice to live this life and who am I to say if what they're doing is right or wrong. Some strippers are working to put themselves through school to better their lives and I commend their ability to take the path they so choose. What my argument was, was more in regards to how I feel about my boyfriend frequenting a strip club, not about how I feel about the ladies that choose to dance in them.

sara says:
Tue, 15th Jul 20088:07 am 

Actually, I recently went with my guy to a strip club, and the whole thing was a lot of fun. I saw tits rubbed in his face, but in reality it was for maybe ten seconds and he was more laughing and having fun than getting turned on by it. I mean maybe I'm wrong, but I was comfortable with his actions the whole time. He didn't get any dances, which I respect, but honestly if he goes again without me and gets one then I won't be upset. I know its a night for him and his guys to have fun, and I honestly believe nothing will come out of it.

Ladies, if you are insecure about your guy at strip clubs, I would recommend going with him the next time, so you can see exactly what goes on and exactly how your guy behaves. And go from there.

In response to Jaime :

You said strippers are "nothing more than lazy parasites who dont want to bother to put in the time for a real job, when they can stay at home all day and then sell themselves out for a couple hours, make a ton of money, which will go towards fuelling their coke/shopping addictions/supporting their illegitimate children". First of all, the statements at the end are completely ridiculous and hypocritical. You make it sound like all strippers are bad people, which is certainly not true. Not even all strippers are slutty people. I know a girl who works at a strip club on her three month summer vacation, then goes back to college able to pay her full tuition and have enough extra cash to not need to work during the school year, and she gets good grades. I think it was completely unnecessary and harsh to call all strippers "worthless whores".

Kel says:
Wed, 16th Jul 20089:49 am 

for me, I want a guy who respects ALL women, not just me. If a girl wants to capitalize on pathetic guys who pay them money to dance more power to them. I am just not okay with a guy who can view a woman as an object, even if she is "presenting" herself that way.

ela says:
Wed, 16th Jul 200812:56 pm 

I’m going to start this topic in the forums so anyone who is interested take a peek and we can further discuss strippers and the topic at hand!

ela says:
Wed, 16th Jul 20081:02 pm 

oops here's the link to the forum discussion at TheFrisky: http://www.thefrisky.com/forums/viewthread/228/

i think this is a hot topic on everyone's minds and it's very interesting to hear the diverse points of views from women all over the world- so please lets continue!

Suzie - George Washi says:
Wed, 16th Jul 20081:38 pm 

Strip clubs weird me out. There is no way I would want to be with a guy who was comfortable going to one. It's as simple as that. I just would not be able to deal.

Brandi says:
Wed, 16th Jul 20086:47 pm 

I despise the idea of strip clubs. It's almost a form of cheating, if you ask me. Say your man goes out, meets some random girl, and she just rubs herself all over him…and he comes home and informs you of this. That would be an automatic boot out of the relationship for me. Strip Clubs are pretty much the same thing, except the guys are paying for it….ridiculous! If you are in a good relationship with someone, your man should not have to feel the need to go to a strip club.

I REFUSE to let my boyfriend go to one, no matter how needy I may be! He's mine! lol

Brian says:
Wed, 16th Jul 20089:55 pm 

Jaime, I completely agree with you. Most guys do too, but they go to strip clubs anyway, because they're selfish and enjoy objectifying the women they look at. They like feeling better than the "whore". I think it's crap that a woman can be born with tits and use that to exploit money out of the overpowering sexual needs of weak-willed men, and I think it's crap that men support an industry and individuals when they by and large can't respect the practicioners of that industry. Kel, I can't understand how you wouldn't approve of the men for objectifying women, but you support the women who feed that. It's like saying that doing drugs is bad but selling them is okay.

This is one man who will never go to a strip club. I don't objectify women, and I don't approve of the women who act as parasites on the men who do.

JohnE says:
Thu, 17th Jul 20088:33 am 

Discussions like this kill me. People get all self-righteous and lay claim that their opinion is the one everyone should have. If you don't like nudie bars or dating someone who goes to nudie bars bully for you. I hope that works out for you. I personally like nudie bars I maybe go once a year with my wife. It can be fun and a quite exciting. We go and are there for maybe 30 to 45 minutes and are sold a fantasy. Nothing horribly wrong or really morally objectionable. To those who complain it objectifies women so what. Putting on make-up and having your hair done objectifies you. The sole pupose of these things is to make a more physically attractive sexual object and there is nothing wrong with that.

Jeremy says:
Fri, 18th Jul 20087:17 am 

Brian, nice try, but your women's studies classmates still aren't going to let you in their pants.

Amy says:
Fri, 18th Jul 20087:33 am 

Good call, Jeremy. Brian, maybe take a spare moment and grow a pair. See ya at the club!

Jessica says:
Fri, 18th Jul 20089:13 am 

The question of stripping brings up more than just a girlfriend dilemma. It is a conflict of two ideals that even feminist scholars fight over: exploitation and empowerment.

This really isn't the forum to get into that debate; however, concerned girlfriends everywhere– I just want to say this: Take one second to stop worrying about what "hoo-hoos" are being shoved into your boyfriend's faces and think of the society that confronts these women with a choice: Strip or don't eat.

Of course I am not saying that there are no others jobs they can get. But a lot of women don't have many options. And many women who end up stripping or working in the porn industry are immigrants or non-English speakers who sell their bodies so they can live.

To me, I am more opposed to my boyfriend's lap being brushed by a naked ass (that's not mine, of course) because he would be contributing to the oppression of these women– than because I am worried he is going to get turned on.

Secondly, from the girlfriend's point of view, I consider it cheating. And not in a deeply emotional, unforgiveable way, but let me put this out there:

Would you be okay with your best friend taking her clothes off and dancing for your boyfriend? How about that random girl from Biology? Do you want your boyfriend learning her anatomy in intimate detail?

No. So what's the difference?

Just a few thoughts.

Melissa says:
Mon, 21st Jul 20087:45 am 

Jeremy, I love you.

Stripping is a job. Those chicks don't want your guy, they want his cash.

mike says:
Tue, 22nd Jul 20082:49 pm 

so like everything else there are all types of strippers, from the college girl just paying her tuition and not hooking up to prostitutes. and there are all kinds of guys who go, from the ones who see it as more funny than anything else and make fun of ourselves while we are there to the guys who are looking for the special treatment in the 'champagne room'. the problem isn't the strip club or the strippers; it's if you are dating or married to the latter guy. if so you probably know it and will be battling it as long as you're together. if you're not dating that guy then relax and have some confidence in his judgement.

Dee says:
Wed, 23rd Jul 20087:24 am 

Brian, I like what you had to say. To jeremy and amy-come on now, not everyone is a media brainwashed, morally void pig. Its ok to have a different opinion once in a while-dont be so narrow minded.

Candace says:
Tue, 16th Sep 20081:12 pm 

Ok, For my boyfriend's birthday, I took him to a strip club. We had this agreement that if he ever decided to go to a strip club, I would go with him. Before we went I had no problem with guys going to strip clubs, especially since it could be something we could do together to have a good time. We were there for over an hour and at first it was fine until this stripper took his hands and was rubbing her boobs in his face. (this club was different in the sense that it was full contact). Anyways, I just lost it for some reason, I had to leave because my eyes started to fill with tears. I didnt think that I would be affected like that and even though people say they are just strippers doing their job and what not, it can still hurt to see or hear that your man touched or watched a woman do something that a couple does in private. I dont think I would have reacted like I did if there was no contact, but i guess I just felt betrayed or disrespected for that second in time because he knew I was there and he still did it in front of me.

So I can relate to both sides of the spectrum. As of now, seeing that this situation only happened two days ago, I am still feeling hurt and I dont accept my boyfriend going to strip clubs any time soon.

L says:
Tue, 14th Oct 20086:14 pm 

I have been to a strip club twice, with friends and exes, I've gotten a lap dance, and I don't think I would be bothered by a boyfriend getting one. The only problem I have with strip clubs is if the guy spends too much time or money there. The main concern for me is moderation. It can be a fun night out, but it can also be a waste of money if it happens too often. And as long as they are okay with at least the idea of me seeing male strippers, then I won't stop the guy.

Geegirl says:
Mon, 17th Nov 200810:54 am 

Candace says :

September 16, 2008 at 6:12 pm

Ok, For my boyfriend’s birthday, I took him to a strip club. We had this agreement that if he ever decided to go to a strip club, I would go with him. Before we went I had no problem with guys going to strip clubs, especially since it could be something we could do together to have a good time. We were there for over an hour and at first it was fine until this stripper took his hands and was rubbing her boobs in his face. (this club was different in the sense that it was full contact). Anyways, I just lost it for some reason, I had to leave because my eyes started to fill with tears. I didnt think that I would be affected like that and even though people say they are just strippers doing their job and what not, it can still hurt to see or hear that your man touched or watched a woman do something that a couple does in private. I dont think I would have reacted like I did if there was no contact, but i guess I just felt betrayed or disrespected for that second in time because he knew I was there and he still did it in front of me.

So I can relate to both sides of the spectrum. As of now, seeing that this situation only happened two days ago, I am still feeling hurt and I dont accept my boyfriend going to strip clubs any time soon.

In response to Candace….

I had a similar experience. I went to the strip club with my friend (female) and my fiance. We were wondering if one of the strippers boobs were fake or real. Me and my friend told my fiance to go find out and ask her. He went up to her and had her rub her titties all up on his face. Seeing that really hurt me. I have never done that to him. I don't have men rubbing their naked bodies on me, that would be cheating. Now, I can't kiss him or think of sleeping with him because I just picture the strippers boobs in his face. I felt really disrespected.

Jess says:
Thu, 4th Dec 20083:01 pm 

Umm… I don't have problems with single men or my single guy friends going to strip clubs. I understand that guys, just like girls, have certain needs. However, once u are in a relationship, then you chose for your needs to be met by your significant other… And no one else. If the person you are with just doesn't "do it for you", then show some respect to that person and don't be with them. I have told my boyfriend that from the beginning of our relationship and we haven't had any issues with strip clubs since then. He knows how I feel, so he's respectful of my wishes, feelings, and our relationship so he hasn't gone to any nudie clubs since we started dated.

jessica says:
Fri, 8th May 200911:09 pm 

Ok, as much as it is upsetting and a real shock to the heart to see your partner with a strippers breasts all over his body and in his face. You have to ask yourself from the start, why did you ask your bf to go there with you in the first place. Like candance and gee girl, I don't understand why you would ask your partners to do such things with strippers when you know you are going to get hurt. Even if you are unsure on weather or not your going to get hurt why would you want to take the risk. What do you think a stripper is going to do when asked by your partner "are your breasts real?" of course she is going to do something provocative. As if she would respond with just a verbal answer! Hello, she is a stripper! And she may have noticed your partner sitting with you and the idea that your bf is asking her such questions may somewhat make her feel more empowerment and she may enjoy having you watch and seeing your jeolousy. I don't think that being curious with taking your partner to a strip club is and a bad thing, but I just think that to be on the safe side, don't ask your partner to do such things with strippers where you could possibly get hurt.

lee says:
Tue, 11th Aug 20096:04 am 

i would never allow my man to go if for some reason that occured and some stripper touch my man i would beat her up i break her face n if my man was letting her do it .his lil friend gonna be in pain n after that i get revenge n go to the guy strip club n do the same thing with the guy sripper

i would make sure my man was there then i break up with him after i cheAT on him with his gguy friend then tell him i hate him he can go have his stripper n go get aids ne ways thats what id do but my man aint eva goin if i find out i get revenge then leave him tghats my solution

kelly says:
Mon, 14th Sep 20094:23 pm 

I hate the idea of my boyfriend going to strip clubs, even if it's only for a bachelor party. i don't like the fact that he's staring at hot girls' bodies and is enjoying it.. it really hurts my feelings and i get extremely jealous. at the same time, i feel guilty saying i don't want him to go, because then he'd miss a good friend's or family member's bachelor party. i think what makes me so jealous is that i know he enjoys how the strippers look and they way they move, and although he loves my body, i know i could never show it off the way a stripper can.

Richard says:
Mon, 9th Nov 20097:24 pm 

I've been to a few even took my girlfriend to a few. I can't say every guy is looking for the fantasy. Nor can I say every striper will place their crotch in close up view to a mans face. Ladies if you go with your man talk to the striper that is petitioning him for a dance or the one that he likes. Do so in front of him so he also knows what you'll permit of him and what you'll permit of her. I know alot will even allow you to occompany your man into the vip. Remember one they're just doing a job, not trying to steel your man. Two most are already in a commited relationship and want nothing to do with the guys who are there. Three when all is said and done at the stripe club your man is going home with you, not the striper. Finally if your man should allow you to go to a male stripe show behave the same as you would have him behave at a gentlemans club.

John says:
Sun, 22nd Nov 20099:05 am 

Strippers are not honest. Their entire lives are devoted to conning money out anyone. My gf was a stripper, is a stripper, totally diff than what I ever expected. Her definition of unfaithful is that all is okay as long as she is paid for it. I mean all. After meeting her I found many images of her online in porn, doing every imaginable sex act with other men. She gets emails from other men where they describe in detail every thing they ever did including to micromeasurements of his penis, sending images of them together and one even showing her with ejaculate on her tummy and her face contorted in some "state of ecstasy". Strippers are not from this world, their logic is backwards. There is not one thing wrong with playing with another mans manhood. Showing her all, just for one dollar, I have unfortunately seen it during my one visit to her "work". This one has no problem whatsoever with lying, putting her nipples in a mans mouth, putting her butt in a mans face, sliding her g-string over and spreading her butt cheeks while on stage dance, right in front of me and then denying it and then justifying it as ok because he paid for it.

No telling what goes on in VIP and I am not there, never will be again. Never going back. Why is she my girlfriend still?? She is not, friendly but that relationship was rough and hard to end due to her insistence she does nothing wrong and truly believing I could not do without her.

Anyone!!!! Please comment!!!!!!!!!! not just on my stupidy but in general.

John says:
Wed, 25th Nov 20096:47 am 

To the below post, they dont want your boyfriend just his cash. Well okay maybe so, but they will meet later and they will let him fondle them, perform fellatio, in VIP they will have full blown sex. That is not important? Dont tell me they dont.

#

Melissa says:

Mon, 21st Jul 200812:45 pm

Jeremy, I love you.

Stripping is a job. Those chicks don’t want your guy, they want his cash.

T says:
Sun, 25th Apr 20108:21 am 

I could never love a man who frequented strip clubs for a number of reasons:
1. I would take him seeking out other women to fuel sexual fantasy-and acting this out to a degree by having her rub herself all over him- as cheating.

2. I couldn't trust a person who views 'buying' people and sexually objectifying them as a legitimate past time.

3. Strippers are boring, it's just a human awkwardly wiggling their body. At first, it's laughable but primarily, it's extremely boring and to find it entertaining and worthy of payment indicates a vacuous nature…and I could never love such a dumb fool.

ARC says:
Fri, 27th Aug 20103:43 am 

I really identify with:

Jess, Geegirl, Candace, Jessica, Brian, Brandi, Suzi, ela, Kel, Sammie & jess

I hurt deeply when I am dating and am emotionally invested (in love) and a boyfriend still wants to go to a strip club, or watch pornography, or sit on a computer to consciously go through photos for sexual appeal.

It hurts big time. Thanks to each of those I listed for sharing, as I feel a little relief knowing I am not alone in this feeling entirely.

I intend to speak to a therapist to see if I can learn 1) why I feel this way, 2) if I can improve this, e.g. "get over it," or if not, how to deal with it in the healthiest manner.

I'm a good looking girl. I have a wonderful boyfriend. He respects my feelings on the porn, and strip clubs, luckily.

Yet, I think it's best for me to stil try to be less vulnerable to this easily induced pain. Understanding it can help me THINK in a way that hurts me less, even if it never is something I can never fully "get over."

I always wonder if I'm "allowed" to feel this way, and express it. I was upfront with my boyfriend, as I certainly don't want to be controlling. I simply KNOW I can't date and feel okay when this idea/issue/feeling arises. I guess it's just that. The idea is what i have the issue with and then I feel hurt.

Enough from me! Hope this helps someone somewhere feel less alone!

yo says:
Mon, 20th Sep 20102:55 pm 

Just thought I’d tell the ladies reading this that lots of us guys don’t even go to the strip clubs for the girls, we go cause its great time with the guys. Getting drunk out of our minds and acting like complete morons means good times.
I’ve even went to the strip clubs a couple of times without bothering to put in my contacts, the strippers looked like a jumbled blur to me but seeing my friend go on stage with a loonie in his mouth and getting shunned by the stripper was all the entertainment I needed!

yo says:
Mon, 20th Sep 20103:14 pm 

Oh and read some of these comments and came across Jessica’s, she said this:
“This really isn’t the forum to get into that debate; however, concerned girlfriends everywhere– I just want to say this: Take one second to stop worrying about what “hoo-hoos” are being shoved into your boyfriend’s faces and think of the society that confronts these women with a choice: Strip or don’t eat.

Of course I am not saying that there are no others jobs they can get. But a lot of women don’t have many options. And many women who end up stripping or working in the porn industry are immigrants or non-English speakers who sell their bodies so they can live.

To me, I am more opposed to my boyfriend’s lap being brushed by a naked ass (that’s not mine, of course) because he would be contributing to the oppression of these women– than because I am worried he is going to get turned on.”

Just wanted to say that what you said is ridiculous and a lot of feminists have this issue. They say that women need these jobs to eat and survive, then they go on to criticize the men that make this possible. Look, if there were no guys doing this then these people would starve, you even said so yourself.
There are people working in mines, dying by the day to meet the energy concerns of upper and middle class citizens, you see anyone complaining about this, criticizing people who leave their lights on when they’re not home, saying they are ‘contributing to the oppression’ of these workers?? No, because those workers are damn thankful for it because otherwise their families would starve. So stop judging people for actually making another person’s life possible, it’s not like your boyfriend is chaining the stripper and forcing her to do it against her will.

Lilithluv says:
Fri, 15th Apr 20115:15 am 

Objectification in and of itself isn't bad. We ARE all SEXUAL beings! Most of us fix up our hair, faces, shave etc. to be more 'attractive' to usually the opposite sex. Stripping goes way beyond that and is objectification of women in a way that is not harmless! Evidence of lack of or low level Self-Esteem and Self-Respect shows up in MANY negative behaviors besides stripping: smoking, very risky sexual behavior, eating disorders, staying in abusive relationships, etc. Basically, there's absolutely NOTHING to be proud of or feel GOOD about reducing your body to just a commodity to be sold physically and/or 'visually'! And there IS a difference between the behavior of patrons in a strip bar and a museum that is showing Nude(female/male)ART! The cat-calling, obscene gesturing, drooling and LAUGHING happens at, well, YOU guess which place! Also, I personally would have to ask myself if stripping is what I'd want my daughter to see and aspire to be. Yes, those women on stage are there usually by choice, but she IS somebody's DAUGHTER! I would feel horrible if she were mine(but STILL love her)! No, she's not a criminal and no, I wouldn't hate or reject her, but I sure as Hell would not VISIT her place of work like I would if she were a doctor, teacher or even a ladies room attendant! I've not made much money in my life, and like practically all MEN, I did NOT resort to stripping! I NEVER bought into the idea that my body is a commodity like meat to be sold to pay ANY bill. I don't judge women who feel they need to strip to get thru college or whatever. They're not bad people, just misguided! Hey, try stripping only for your boyfriend/grrlfriend or wife/husband, get SEXY for only EACH OTHER(donate your tip $ to a CHARITY instead)!

Frederick says:
Sat, 18th Jun 20113:24 am 

Certainly, the whole debate regarding the social and moral issues concerned in discussing whether or not a man, committed in a serious relationship, should desire to–and if so be allowed to–frequent or simply upon certain occasion visit a gentleman’s club is a genuine one and thus can get quite heated. However, it cannot be ignored how blatantly pointless it is, for no viable argument which someone of a differing opinion will ever consider, and such is how issues regarding the sexual morals of human naturally are.

This is merely because the difference in opinions in these regards, unlike in other areas where it often based upon the factual knowledge and the interpretation of such knowledge of an individual, are determined by the ideological, cultural, and social contexts in which the individual’s frame of mind is set; in other words by factors psychological and environmental, often intangible by logical pursuits and other methods applied in debate. Further, with such factors it would follow that there simply is no proper behavior which to follow in circumstances described in the article.

If this is true, then may I ask the posters above whom in their reasoning citing moral concerns and those whom attempted to enforce their opinion upon others: why in the world should you do so? No opinion on the subject, however contradictory to your own, should ever be shunned, for it is just as correct–no less knoledgable–than any other.

This said, what the author wanted to initiate and which many followed I certainly agree with, for the presentaiton of different outlooks on this subject, and even the experiences and beliefs which define such outlooks truly are interesting.

Personally, I find that, by god, what really matters is that upon such an issue you genuinely agree with you partner, given you really are in a serious relationship, as one’s perspective on this really embodies their sexual morals and behavior. Speaking for my wife and I, never in our relationship, upon any occasion, has it ever occurred to the either of us to visit such a club, and this is simply due to personal preference I figure, as we both find a lounge or gallery upon a night out far more enjoyable. Not to mention, speaking for myself at least, that in terms of my sensual desires, they are fulfilled by my wife just fine, and she is plenty pretty besides.

Dierdre says:
Sun, 11th Sep 201111:18 pm 

if she went to that extent then you're right to break up with her. She was basically just saying she had no respect for the relationship. people are supposed to be faithful in a relationship, and what goes on between 2 people should only go on between those 2, not any guy who pays for it. You made a good choice

Yup. says:
Sat, 17th Sep 20115:11 am 

The reason is simple: those men think they need a variety of women to look at, like a woman's body is a form of entertainment, and they get bored with their girlfriend's/wife's. I don't even waste my time with men who want to go to strip clubs while in a relationship; someone who needs a naked woman to have a good time is probably lacking quite a bit of intelligence, anyway.

John says:
Mon, 19th Sep 201112:28 am 

i dont understand how guys in a relationship could do this…how hard is it to consider the feelings of the one you love (i hope its only one)
i think if your in a relationship with someone and they are not ok with you going to watch strippers… then dont!
id just like to say that most guys would never do this, myself included of course

if your in a relationship and your not ok with him being at a stripclub and he goes…do you really want to be with that man

all that crap about going just to have a good time with your friends is BS …if you want to have a good time with your friends…then dont go to a place with naked women

if your single on the other hand you can do wat you want you wont be breaking someones heart back at home

... says:
Mon, 19th Sep 201112:36 am 

Just a bit harsh?