First Lohan, now Trump.
Or should I say, Trumpberg? Trumpstein? Schwartztrump?
Ivanka Trump has sought out a rabbi to take her on her journey to Judaism. Why does she want to be a Jew? Why not? We are wonderful people: kind, generous, family oriented, and we know how to eat. And, hello, have you ever had matzoh ball soup? Yeah, that’s all us.
Oh, and she is also in love with some Jewish guy who won’t marry her unless she too celebrates Hanukkah, Yom Kippur and all that jazz.
I think it is wonderful that Ivanka has found love (and a real estate empire) in Jared Kushner, but the whole thing makes me wonder just how far women should go to be with the guy they love. I used to get sh*t from my friends for changing my hair/music selection/weekend plans for the guys I was with, so I can only imagine how they’d feel if I changed my entire belief system.
I know that love is a wondeful thing, that it is hard to find, and that we should hold onto the one we got, but there has to be a line, right?
Would you convert for someone you love?
[Photo courtesy of Gawker.]



Sam says:
Wed, 29th Oct 20083:58 pm
Where’s the option for “Hell no, just because I love him doesn’t mean religion isn’t batshit crazy?”
Militant agnostic: I don’t know and you don’t either. No way I’d convert to something I don’t believe in. If religion’s your thing, you sure as fck better be taking it seriously.
Stephanie says:
Wed, 29th Oct 20084:58 pm
-Agnostic Thiest-
I don’t know, now one does…but why not choose to belief it? I mean you honestly think that everything in the world operates on its own accord?
C says:
Wed, 29th Oct 20088:35 pm
…Maybe she actually believes in it and wasn’t introduced to the religion in any depth till she met Jared? I can understand converting for a man if you actually believe it, but if not, its stupid.
Nicole says:
Wed, 29th Oct 200810:17 pm
According to a friend of the Kushner family Ivanka’s refusal at first to convert was the reason that she and Jared broke-up in April.
This makes it’s obvious that the only reason Ivanka is converting is because of Jared and his family. And Ivanka’s in love so she will do anything to please her man. It’s sickening. If Jared wanted a Jewish woman he should have only dated within his religion. It’s so ridicoulous and what happens if they get a divorce? Will Ivanka go back to being a Gentile?
Beth says:
Thu, 30th Oct 20081:22 am
A person should NEVER be forced to follow a particular religion just to get married!!! I’m Christian, and my now-ex boyfriend turned abusive when I repeatedly refused to convert to Islam just to marry him. He thought that since some of his friends got their weak-willed women to sell their souls to have a man in their bed, that he could break me down too. (That’s nothing against Islam. I’d feel just as strongly about someone being forced into Christianity or any other religion for that matter. Selling out your religion like that seems to me like selling your soul to the devil.)
Point is, your religious beliefs, or lack of, are YOUR OWN, and should not be used as a bargaining point for marriage. Everyone deserves a partner who will love and accept them as is, and never force them to give up something that is such a fundamental part of their lives!
Now, if you yourself choose to study your partner’s faith and decide on your own to convert, then that’s your business.
Raphael Freeman says:
Fri, 31st Oct 200812:51 am
Not so simple. Ivanka conversion will not be easy. The rabbi that they selected is an orthodox rabbi and she will have to prove that she actually believes in Judaism for her to convert. The real problem is going to be that actually in orthodox Judaism conversion for love is very problematic to be diplomatic (for precisely the reasons mentioned above) so this high-profile conversion is going to be interesting.
However, I do know of many cases of a person converting to Judaism in order to marry someone and they remained committed and observant Jews for their entire life (well so far anyway
)
There is a difference between the Islam/Christian example though. Certain streams of Islam consider the rest of the world as infidels. If your fiance believed this, then it would be unacceptable for you to be Christian, married or now. In Judaism, we have no problem with other religions. There is nothing wrong with being Christian, Muslim etc. We do have a technical problem with marrying another faith, but this is about keeping the religion alive rather than belittling other religious beliefs.
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