Dear Tyler Perry: Stop Making Movies.

March 7, 2009 5:00 pm     Posted in Buzz, HaHa  Gemma - NYU g+ page

madea1.jpgI’ve never seen a Tyler Perry movie. I say this at the outset so I don’t get any “shut up, I bet you haven’t even seen a Madea movie” comments. No, I haven’t, and I probably never will. I guess I am an uninformed hater, but I simply cannot stomach the idea of contributing my hard-earned money to this franchise, even in the name of research and/or irony. Never. Here are the reasons this endless parade of mediocrity needs to end.

1. It’s Making Us Dumber!

A personal pet peeve, but the title character is called Madea. Don’t confuse her with Medea, tragic heroine of Greek drama. I am generally against things that make us dumber, and the thought that tweens today will grow up with THIS as their first impression of Me(a?)dea makes me vomit a little. I hear that Madea is maybe a common name for your grandmother in the South, but still. Is our children learning, people?

2 It’s a Crap Factory! Seriously. A Machine That Cranks Out Crap.

There have been 8 of these movies since 2002. That math alone doesn’t really indicate a quality product so much as an assembly line. The title progression smacks of a children’s book series, along the lines of The Berenstein Bears, Sweet Valley Twins/High, etc. With “Diary of a Mad Black Woman” the franchise was born, to be followed up with “Madea’s Family Reunion,” ”Meet the Browns,” and some other ones I can’t be bothered to look up. Next up, ‘Tyler Perry’s Madea and Too Much Birthday!” and “Madea and No Boys Allowed!” No, no, the latest release, currently in theaters and beating the JONAS BROTHERS MOVIE IN TICKET SALES is ‘Madea Goes to Jail’, and I hear ‘Madea’s Class Reunion’ is in the pipeline. You know why those book series have such simplistic and obvious titles? Because they are FOR CHILDREN, who fall in love with an easy to understand character, and for their parents who want to know exactly what it’s about before they open their wallets.

3. Being Popular Doesn’t Make It GOOD.

I am not of the opinion that popular movies cannot also be ‘good’ movies. It doesn’t all have to be German nouveau-noir puppet theater to be artistic. But by all outward appearances, these are bad, formulaic movies, based on the premise (already well-covered by Eddie Murphy, btw) that it’s funny to see a man dressed up as a fat woman. OMG, it’s a man! In laaaaaady clothes! And a fat suit! HAHAHA! What’s that you say, that other fat or old character in the movie is also played by the SAME MAN?! Unbelievable! I must see it again!

PLEASE. When the first Madea movie came out, it was panned as a stupid but popular piece of crap, along the lines of, say, American Pie. You know the type: critics hated it, but everyone you know has seen it and probably still quotes it from time to time. I wish that, like the American Pie franchise, Madea had died a slow, shameful box office death around the third installment, when producers realized that they had stretched one and a half movie’s worth of material over three full-length features. But noooo. We, as a people, are keeping it alive. By throwing our money at it.

4. We’re Not Stupid!

I really don’t buy the claim that Mr. Perry is tapping into the humor of the black community, and so I, as a white girl, just don’t get it, and of course won’t find it funny. Seriously? I admitted to American Pie, that was some shi**y white boy humor, and that didn’t make it secretly a good movie that certain demographics just couldn’t appreciate. Well-crafted humor isn’t entirely universal, but it’s pretty close, and if something is well done, you can at least appreciate that fact, even if you don’t personally laugh out loud at it. So don’t give me that garbage. I get it enough to know that it’s unoriginal and dumb, and that’s plenty.

5. In Conclusion! Tyler Perry is an Evil Genius!

I’ve got nothing against Tyler Perry personally. Madea was once upon a time a really funny character, and he is clearly a very, very smart businessman. He’s taken an already recycled idea, re-packaged it with some sort of hit-you-over-the-head moralism thrown in (I hear his films take an obvious stand against battering women. Well done.), and released it eight times, making a pile of cash in doing so. His power is growing too great. It seems that production companies will release anything with his name slapped on the front, and so, he must be stopped. I beg of you, critics and paying audience alike. Stop. Him. Before “Tyler Perry’s Song of Solomon” hits theaters.

68 Comments on "Dear Tyler Perry: Stop Making Movies."
  1. Rachele says:
    Sat, 7th Mar 200912:54 pm 

    First CC comment…(so forgive me)

    Why should movies make us smarter?? Most are made to be recreational. If someone is looking for education, one should not go see a regurgitated play made into movie, film (exceptions: documentaries, educational films). So the the stupidity argument goes out the window.

    Maybe I see it from a racial standpoint more than Gemma does.

    Yes, Gemma is right there is this secretive humor that if you're in a certain race you would understand. All races are like that unfortunately. That's what the entertainment business has based itself on for so long and it seems to make revenue at the same time increasing self-segregation even further.

    So bashing this movie to the nth degree is not the best post that I have read. But Gemma brings up a good points that I wish CC would post on (i.e racial humor…etc).

    Anyway, CC blogs are one of the blogs I turn to for college oriented advice. But it could be more aware of different races( i.e G.W.W.E posts)

    Thanks Gemma, if someone ever loans me the movie when it eventually gets to DVD and/or pays for my ticket, I'll pass on it.

  2. Regina says:
    Sat, 7th Mar 200912:54 pm 

    I'm with you. My mom loves these movies, but I share the mindset of my cousin, who refers to them as a modern day minstrel show. I'm black, but this kind of "black" humor has never done it for me…

  3. Bela says:
    Sat, 7th Mar 20091:44 pm 

    "I’ve never seen a Tyler Perry movie."

    Okaay… so why are you judging it then?

    C'mon, seriously.

  4. Lisa says:
    Sat, 7th Mar 20091:54 pm 

    I agree. These movies are s*it.

  5. Susan QUinn says:
    Sat, 7th Mar 20092:04 pm 

    I feel like you should at least watch one of the movies before you knock it. I actually enjoyed Diary of a Mad Black Women quite a bit, although I could have done without the Madea parts.

  6. Jackie says:
    Sat, 7th Mar 20092:49 pm 

    "Madea is maybe a common name for your grandmother in the South, but still. Is our children learning, people?"

    I'm not sure whether the second sentence was put in there for some subtle racist humor or not, either way I'm not laughing. And why is it that Madea is common in the South? Do you have any statistics to back that statement up at all?

    Thanks for a quick dose of racism Gemma on CC, really.

  7. Jamie-BU says:
    Sat, 7th Mar 20092:56 pm 

    Jackie about the Madea comment, I'm black and I don't feel that's racist, because the character of Madea herself is a play on the Southern black grandmas some of us know or have known.

    And I agree, these movies are getting worse and worse. The first two or so I thought 'okay, well they're not bad' but now, I refuse to go see them. My friends can't understand but I'm glad someone does!

  8. ahc says:
    Sat, 7th Mar 20093:39 pm 

    Im just trying to understand how can someone post a blog entry and HAVE ABSOLUTLY NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO KNOWELEDGE about the person their blogging about.

    Are you STUPID? HUH? Are you? Are you trying to draw attention to your page, by adding Tyler Perry's name to it?

    Stop being dumb!!

  9. Haley says:
    Sat, 7th Mar 20093:51 pm 

    Honestly, I've never seen any of the movies either, but if it had to make enough money to knock the Jones Bros. out of #1, I'll support it. Anything to bring those boys down a notch is okay in my books.

  10. LucyInTheSky says:
    Sat, 7th Mar 20095:02 pm 

    I'm not saying you have to watch all the Madea movies to comment on them, but at least do a little research before you decide to write an entire column about this! Geez.

    Tyler Perry is a playwright. He wrote the Madea stories (and many others without her as a character) and produced them as shows BEFORE they were put into movie form. So the whole "crap pipeline" thing is not valid… sure, the movies have been produced but the stories have been written for years.

    Madea serves as comedic relief for sure, and to you, her character may not be funny. But the movies contain themes that are relevant to the African American community- drug abuse, relationships, imprisonment, and spirituality, to name a few. Madea is there to unite the storylines and provide levity to otherwise deep plotlines.

    And yes, Madea is a fairly common name for grandmothers in the South- it's derived from "my dear". Anyone who would associate the character with Medea is an idiot.

  11. LucyInTheSky says:
    Sat, 7th Mar 20095:03 pm 

    Oh, and I agree with Rae… Tyler Perry's movies have some of the most amazing black actors and actresses today- some of whom are sorely underused and underappreciated. I'd rather see them in a Madea movie than not at all!

  12. Aysla says:
    Sat, 7th Mar 20095:23 pm 

    Their = possessive. They're = contraction of 'they are'. At least get that right before calling someone else stupid. Also, the "is our children learning" thing is a quote from Bush (oh the irony)… google it.

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    My own complaint about the Tyler Perry Madea franchise is the fact that, instead of developing new and original ideas and providing great roles for African Americans, it's rehashing the same old thing time and time again. Kind of like the many Nutty Professors (the first one Eddy Murphy starred in was good, after that…), the multiple Scary Movies, or the Austin Powers crap, and so on.

  13. Rae says:
    Sat, 7th Mar 20095:36 pm 

    I don't understand how you can write an entire critism on a franchise that you have never seen or cared to research in any way. What are you basing this information off of? Previews and commercials? Diary of a Mad Black Woman happens to be a hysterical movie… but apart from that actually made me cry. It was moving in a way that 9 out of 10 movies that I have seen are not, yet I still had a smile on my face at the end. I think it's a little ignorant to post an entire blog on a topic that you are clearly uneducated in. And I agree with Rachele… since when does every movie ever made need to be some intellectual masterpiece? The point of movies is for entertainment value.

    Oh… and if you bothered to spend more then 2 seconds looking into this franchise, you would know that it's not all "black" comedy. Which doesn't really matter in any case. If you can't laugh at a joke because it's coming out the mouth of an African-American, you should certainly re-evaluate your ignorant racism that is obviously affecting you.

    ON TOP OF ALL OF THAT… Tyler Perry has provided a TON of work to black actors in an industry that is hard for them to get work because of the colour of their skin.

    I found this article highly offensive. You should be ashamed of yourself for posting this. It made you look like an ignorant whiny baby.

  14. lois says:
    Sat, 7th Mar 20097:50 pm 

    gemma bitch, you sound so fucking racist.

  15. Mazuba says:
    Sat, 7th Mar 20098:48 pm 

    I think that judging movies that you haven't watched is wrong.Tyler P is a very intelligent and creative writer and actor .He puts african-american actors who are not usually appreciated in his movies and they are not junk.Madea is for humour,and the other movies like "Why Did I get married","Daddy's Little Girls" and "The Family that prays" are movies that teach us something.The City and the Hills doesn't teach us anything about life .Tyler P is talented .Enough said

  16. Chezza says:
    Sat, 7th Mar 20099:53 pm 

    Gemma, really? This was the worst post I've seen on CC – EVER. Clearly you have no clue as to what you're talking about. Indeed, you are an uninformed hater. His movies cast black people because it gives them an opportunity to play important roles as opposed to "Girl with hat". And they definitely have other characters that aren't black. Also, his movies don't show issues affecting just blacks. They're for ANYONE whose going through whatever issue the lead is going through. Please, please, PLEASE at least watch a movie before you write an article about it.

    Honestly, how did you even get picked to write CC? I'm taking a journalism class this semester and one of the main points I've learned in there is to DO YOUR RESEARCH. Try doing that next time…

  17. KR says:
    Sun, 8th Mar 200912:19 am 

    I flinch every time an ad comes on for Tyler Perry's House of Payne. It's so freakin' offensive! I mean, I know I have a very low tolerance for overt racism (I grew up in a very white, upper middle class politically correct area. I'd never heard the n-word spoken until a youth conference at age seventeen. I was mad fun of for wincing every time anyone used it). But really, it's just so…Erg.

  18. KR says:
    Sun, 8th Mar 200912:23 am 

    Jackie-BTW, Madea was originally a contraction of "my dear". And it comes directly from the southern US. No statistics needed.

  19. Laeri says:
    Sun, 8th Mar 20094:58 am 

    There have been 8 of these movies since 2002. That math alone doesn’t really indicate a quality product so much as an assembly line.

    Tyler Perry was creating plays long before he started producing movies. All of the movies that he has produced have just been movie adaptations of his plays. So while it may seem like an assembly line that could not possibly be good since the movies are so frequent, the plot and key points of the storyline have been created a VERY long time ago. So you can't just assumed they must be bad movies because of the quantity.

  20. Sarah says:
    Sun, 8th Mar 20099:15 am 

    Haha, I just think it’s hilarious that under the “It’s making us dumber” section – which first of all, grammatically should say “More Dumb” – you wrote, “IS our children learning” – HELLO! It should say ARE our children learning! Let’s get some good grammar here before we accuse someone else of being dumb.

  21. OMGLikeWow16 says:
    Sun, 8th Mar 20099:40 am 

    I think this is definitely a black thing…im sure you're a young white female and you just wouldnt understand our kind of humor…and who the hell is "US" movies dont affect me…I watch it and usually by the next day ive forgotten most of what it was about…and for you to have never seen a movie but bash it…well how ignorant is that sweet cheeks…and Tyler Perry isnt basing his character off of that greek whatever you mentioned so you could have kept that bit of "smart-ass" information to yourself sugar plum

  22. Daisy says:
    Sun, 8th Mar 20099:40 am 

    Sarah: like a previous poster pointed out, the line "Is our children learning" is a quote taken directly from Bush himself! It's supposed to be ironic.

  23. OMGLikeWow16 says:
    Sun, 8th Mar 20099:43 am 

    Also the movies aren't just focused on bringing the funny they have life messages in them. Things you can learn and apply to real life. So you posting this really was a waste

  24. Daisy says:
    Sun, 8th Mar 20099:44 am 

    Oops, got cut off. Anyway, I think it's kind of weird how you (Gemma) dedicated a whole post to this man, since I don't recall you ever spewing such distaste for any other celebrity or franchise. That said, there have been way too many men playing/dressing up as Southern Grannies as a storyline (Martin Lawrence, Eddie Murphy) in movies. Lets start exploiting other stereotypes!

  25. Jamie-BU says:
    Sun, 8th Mar 200910:04 am 

    A lot of people are saying the poster doesn't understand the humor because she's not black-I'm black and I don't like these movies either. It's true that they address a lot of the problems I've seen around me in my neighborhood,a nd that they use a lot of good actor and actresses, but I feel like they're starting to all sound the same.

    I feel like he could change the way African American movies are though of, but no, he continues with the same old formula, time after time. Sure its a formula that works, but the storylines are sounding way too similar and now I refuse to watch any of them.

    I'll support him again once he puts some individuality into his works, the same way I refuse to see any Martin Lawrence or Eddie Murphy movies anymore. It's the same old same old! Here you are using black actors and actresses with so much potential, but you keep casting them into the same roles, not allowing any room for growth.

    I agree with most of the points you've raised here Gemma, especially that Madea was once a funny and interesting character, because she was!

    I don't think you're in any way racist for criticizing the movies, just I hope that next time you do some research.

  26. Sarah says:
    Sun, 8th Mar 200910:22 am 

    As much as I would agree on some of your points, Gemma, I think that the argument could have been phrased in a much better way. A rant based on a movie that you have never actually watched holds little water. But had you actually viewed the movie, I think you could have sparked a real debate one what could *really* be the problem with these movies.

    Though, for the people who are accusing Perry of cranking out the same storyline over and over, and not using his position as a director to make some real headway, it's interesting to wonder just what his multi-movie contract says. There's a large chance that he was contracted out solely to do a bunch of movies that all have the same so-called "black" humor without much wiggle room.

  27. LeLe says:
    Sun, 8th Mar 20091:04 pm 

    I dare you watch one! I used to think they were dumb, but after I actually sat down and watched one I couldn't stop from laughing.

  28. Crystal says:
    Sun, 8th Mar 20091:11 pm 

    yes please pleaae please stop, the Madia movies are not good!

  29. Catalinasupra says:
    Sun, 8th Mar 20097:01 pm 

    It is an ignorant thing to pre-judge something that you have no real experience of. I really expected more from a "college" blog writer.. You shouldn't write about what you don't know about. Whether the Tyler Perry movies are good or not, who are you to say?

  30. Chris says:
    Mon, 9th Mar 200912:35 am 

    First off, everyone is entitled to their opinion but it would do some good to research the topic before bashing it.

    The thing is that in the Madea movies, she is never the main character. The story is always about something bigger then the Madea character itself. She is just the one that gives knowledge and the comedic relief. Also, Tyler Perry has been doing the Madea plays awhile before movies like the Nutty Professor and Big Momma's House came out. The only difference is that Tyler Perry has just now become mainstream.

    Also, Tyler Perry does more than just the Madea movies. His other films are actually good films and bring another dimension to the African American film community.

    Just to state, I think that the plays (some of them at least) are better than the movies. The movies are actually geared towards a more mainstream audience than the plays. Also, Tyler Perry has all creative control of what he puts out. His New Line Cinema contract does not state that he has to put out the same movies and he doesn't.

  31. Jes says:
    Mon, 9th Mar 20099:38 am 

    Dude- I don’t care what any of you guys say, these movies (AND the plays- moreso) are fucking HILARIOUS!

    He cracks me up- not with the storyline, but just how danm funny Madea is. Me and my boyfriend actually watched one of these again yesterday on tv, and we were cracking the hell up!

    “Jesus said, “Let peace be still…”

    “Well I keeps me a piece of steel” (pulls out a 9mm and cocks it in the kitchen)

  32. andy says:
    Mon, 9th Mar 200910:13 am 

    I dont know if anyone is still commenting on this note but let me tell you why I think they should stop making these movies.

    I used to work at a movie theatre and I have NEVER in my life had to clean up a more disgusting theatre then Madea's Family Reunion.

    There was chicken wings and popcorn everywhere. It took 2 people almost 45 minutes to clean up the whole theatre when it should take about 5.

  33. T says:
    Mon, 9th Mar 20094:45 pm 

    All I can say is wow.

  34. cutecapricorn says:
    Mon, 9th Mar 20095:00 pm 

    hmmm tisk tisk i know all i can say is wow too, i know everyone is entitled to there own opinion but really if you havent seen one of the moviess you cant say anything about it,but i guess im not as shocked that Gemmma may not understand the jist of the movies thats not a shock to me, whats a shock is that a post like this is on CC, like it kinda changed my liking a bit for the site :/

  35. critical guy says:
    Mon, 9th Mar 20095:20 pm 

    I'm cool with black people getting they're piece of the American pie and he does cast talented actors, but I watched Family Reunion with a preconceived notion it would be lame. It exceeded my expectations. I'm sorry, but hitting someone with a frying pan is mindless, slip on a banana peel humor. What next a whoopee cushion. Black comedy can be clever and entertaining to all races (i.e. Chapelle Show)

  36. Mary says:
    Mon, 9th Mar 200910:16 pm 

    Although I admire your bravery in admitting you haven't seen a Madea film…why write about something you knew people were gonna jump all over you for from the start?

    This would have been a great rant to share with your girls on a Saturday night IN PRIVATE but it does not make you look like a credible journalist. It's never a good idea to write without first doing research and considering your audience. Even in jest.(You've really brought the racists out of the woodwork here.)If you are intent on discussing these films, I'd like to see you write a story giving the account of your attempts to understand why they continue to make money, how the intended audience feels about them, and who actually goes to see them.

    Personally, I've only seen one of these films and I wasn't impressed and I don't want to see anymore (for reasons that no one else is likely to care about so I will keep them to myself.) I think that these movies could be a lot better and taken more seriously if Tyler Perry put more time into adapting them for a movie format and not relying on Madea's antics for ticket sales so much.

  37. Rachele says:
    Tue, 10th Mar 200912:08 am 

    I've been thinking a lot about this post since I first commented and I feel the one good point that Gemma is getting lost or are we ignoring it because movies are suppose to be fun.

    I'm taking a race relations class and this type of question always comes up: Are the perpetuated fictional racial stereotypes made to entertain us or are they just exaggerations of society?

    I believe that through entertainment these stereotypes are being ingrained in us, to the point that we think that our own race acts like a certain stereotype and we should just roll with it or even another race acts like a certain stereotype. Which is dividing us further from one another. And pretty much causing physical race wars and even silent race wars like some of the back and forth comments on this post.

    Some comedies might be entertaining but the racial humor seems to become subliminal,(there are a ton of examples, think of racial stereotypes). Where we just look at someone and automatically "know" who they are. And it is definitely not only Tyler Perry films or "black" films, it's at least a lot of comedy films out there today.

    Calling Gemma a racist and/or other lackluster names based on one poorly written post is not being fair. At the very least she started a discussion that everyone should already have had.

    p.s: Sorry for the long serious comment CC. (Don't fault Gemma she was probably procrastinating on writing a post).

  38. Jes says:
    Tue, 10th Mar 20098:05 am 

    I just think its stupid that someone's on here slamming movies (that they haven't even seen!) that plays on Southern characters.(And I'm in South Alabama- I KNOW southern when I see it!)

    These "sterotypes" aren't really that stereotypical folks. They are lots of Southern people who sit around eating watermelon and hitting their spouses over the head with frying pans, AND THEY'RE NOT EVEN BLACK! haha

    They're just plain country. (And it's a part of why I can't wait to move out of this place, but still…)

    I've always thought that the plays & movies had a very good moral to the story and they usually teach people how to build up their character and their families in the end.

    (Plus Shamar Moore!? mhm yummy….! :) lol)

    I dont see anyone on here bashing movies like 'Harold & Kumar go to White Castle' or 'Guantanamo Bay…' Although those are freaking hilarious too.

  39. Christine says:
    Thu, 12th Mar 200912:56 am 

    I don’t think you should comment on something you haven’t seen. It was a little bit offensive as a black individual, and it seems like you’re oppressing blacks, although you mention the American Pie series. Movies, in America, are created for entertainment. It is a business, geared towards making a revenue; they are not created to educate America.

    Go educate yourself rather than write this opinion blog. How about the Twilight movies, can we say horrible and America is eating it up. The books, not so bad…

  40. Emma says:
    Thu, 12th Mar 20098:29 am 

    Seriously, Tyler Perry just remakes mainstream movies and replaces all the white actors with black actors.

    If that's what people are willing to pay to go see, whatever, have at it.

  41. zee says:
    Fri, 20th Mar 20095:40 pm 

    critical guy says:

    Mon, 9th Mar 200910:20 pm

    "I’m cool with black people getting they’re piece of the American pie"

    you have got to be freakin kidding me? should all people of Black origin now put their hands together, bow in submission and say "thank ya kindly sir".

  42. Response to Jackie says:
    Sun, 12th Apr 20093:50 am 

    Umm, Jackie..the phrase "Is our children learning" was said by President George W. Bush. Last time I checked W was not black…but then again racism knows no color

  43. Jeff says:
    Tue, 21st Apr 200911:58 am 

    Gemma, I know exactly what type of article you meant to write. People love to pick things apart and make it a race thing.

    The Madea movies have obvious racial stereotypical intentions.

    Everone has to relax. Sheesh.

  44. Angel says:
    Sat, 6th Jun 200910:42 pm 

    I am white, and I can honestly say that I love Tyler Perry movies! Not only are they funny, but they have great meanings to them! You would know that if you watched them! I don't understand how people can pick apart things that they have no clue about! Brush up on your information before you go tearing things apart, alright?

  45. BamboomLOuisiana says:
    Thu, 6th Aug 200910:25 pm 

    Tyler Perry making movies is the same thing as making these Harry Potter movies, or Twlight….yes they are good, but why keep making Harry Potter…or Twlight, Twlight gets ones good movie, now they wanna keep making them….just like Tyler Perry got one good movie and he keeps making them…..Harry Potter got some books…then ONE good movie, and then they keep making them!! People KEEP buying, so they keep making that money…why not….if i was a writer and i made lots of money off a movie! I would probably keep making them 2…

  46. lol says:
    Thu, 3rd Sep 20098:14 am 

    OMG someone hated on a BLACK movie!!?? I'm so angry and offended because I'm soooo WHITE! I know they aren't that great, but come on, HE'S BLACK! If you say you don't like it everyone will call you an ignorant racist! You can't just go around posting your opinions all over the internet! Think before you do something like this….geez…some people.

  47. true says:
    Thu, 17th Sep 20093:14 pm 

    Tyler Perry is not bad at all if you were in a baptist church and grew up in the south with a grandmother like madea then you would understand his movies and where he is coming from and the message behind it. so get a life if you dont understand something your writing about and have not seen it shut the hell up

  48. hamhum- says:
    Fri, 18th Sep 20096:58 am 

    true…are you actually trying to justify his movies as a "you had to be there" joke? Good humor is universal. I shouldn't have to be black or be baptist or be southern or have an insanley stereotypical grandmother to squeeze out a laugh at something. I can understand that some jokes would be culture specific, but if it is funny, then it is funny regardless of wheter or not I'm a part of that culture.

  49. almost mouse says:
    Sun, 27th Sep 20099:32 pm 

    These series are targeted toward a specific audience (tradition african americans). As long as there is a market for it, I am afraid Tyler perry and his ilk will continue to churn out these substandard movies. I too refuse to watch (even on DVD) Tyler perry moves because I do not want my dollar to encourage other film maker from making these kinds of movies. As a black man I would love to see African Americans take a greater role in the film industry but there is got to be some kind of standard. I am afraid Tyler Perry is doing more damage than good for african americans role in the film industry. Peace

  50. is this serious says:
    Sun, 18th Oct 20095:39 pm 

    I think its hilarious how everyone jumped on the fact that shes never seen any Tyler Perry movies. If she wouldnt have mentioned that, the majority of these arguments would be moot. Moving on, the tv shows are a modern day minstrel show so any argument otherwise is ignorant. However ive noticed an underlying theme in every since film, tv show, or play TP has created. Black men are always looked down upon or inferior to females and/or white people. Every black man in tylers movies is inferior. If that character is in an executive position or is some sort of boss, he cheats on his wife, beats his wife or is out shined by his wife . In Diary of a mad black women features a woman married to a rich black man, however hes a cheater. She goes on to fall in love with a steel worker who works a blue collar job (not saying theres anything wrong with that) but at least hes a good guy right. Madeas family reunion features yet another rich black man but he beats the crap out of his wife. Tyler perry is also in the movie but he left his wife because she was a drug addict. Why did i get married features: a man with baby daddy drama who is talked down to by his wife who happens to be a successful business owner. Tyler Perry who of course is in an executive position because its his movie. Another black male whose job isnt really talked about however he blatantly cheats on his wife played by jill scott. Last Malik Yoba's character who is overshadowed by janet jackson. When I say overshadowed I mean that her star power is so strong that whatever malik yoba was portraying becomes irrelevant with a name such as janet jackson playing a lead role. Daddys little girls features idris elbas character fighting with a sassy baby momma over their three girls whose new boyfriend is a drug dealer(Which makings absolutely no sense). Gabrielle Unions character, a powerful attorney comes to his rescue (of course) even though her powerful girl friends tell her not to. Of course idris elba's character is a worker and not a boss. A family that prey's……well you get where im going. Bottom line is that the black men in the films are always blue collar workers with limited education, or are in a postion of power and sleep around, beat, or are overshadowed by their female counterparts.

    Another theme is the idea of the magic negro. Madea is a magic negro. The idea of the magic negro is someone who comes around "magically" and always know the right thing to say, or always get you out of a jam but their origins are always a mystery. Madea knows everyone, but who exactly is she related to, its never really spoken of. However shes always saying the right thing and always knows what to do. If you dont believe me, type magic negro in google and i promise you a picture of obama will come up. People look at him as a magic negro, everyone believes that he will fix everything and he always knows the right thing to say. But theres an air of mystery as to his origins which are still disputed to this day.

    Of course theres always the usual black cliche's, disrespect of black men ( the aquarium scene in daddys little girls between the two women features one of the biggest instances so far) assault and battery, big mama coonery, light skin vs dark skin complex. My thing is if we are trying to evolve as a people, why do we keep addressing themes that we want to get passed? Its amazing to me that someone like Tyler Perry who lived in his car for years hasnt made a movie addressing a black man who came from nothing to something. Instead he feeds his pockets and continues to put of stereotypical depictions of African Americans. I myself have never grew up around any of the nonsense depicted in those films. I live in a mixed suburbia neighborhood, graduated with honors and now I own a design firm. My other black male friends are just as successful in their perspective fields. We dont have baby mommas, we dont sleep with multiple women and we all grew up in the suburbs with mothers and fathers. So please explain to me why arent there more movies about this type of success?

  51. jahyazzy says:
    Mon, 9th Nov 20095:25 am 

    I have nothing against a black man doing something positive, but I feel that Tyler Perry's movies are all the same. It seems like every movie is about a woman who is either confused or struggling in life and a man comes into to picture and falls in love with her and at the end of the movie they get married or kiss. Then Madea always talking shit and pulling out a gun, Mr brown always wearing something stupid and mispronouncing words. My wife and family loves the movies and thats cool, but when they start talking like madea thats not cool. Like I said I respect the man's hustle but when you have other blck people saying this is your grandaddy and other dumb stuff it makes us look stereo-typical

  52. Mark says:
    Tue, 29th Dec 20094:10 pm 

    I've been trying to find some more information out there on him and groups that would like to stop this terrible film making. His shows are an absolute embarassment for American Film. "Meet The Browns" has to be the poorest written program in history. The acting is terrible and the plots are even worse.. Our country does not do enouph to stop this crap. It would be looked at as racist and politically insensitive. What everyone is missing, is that Tyler Perry is himself racist and his program do not promote equality or even comedy for that matter. he got his start working off of government grants form minority groups and has unfortunately built an empire out of it. Only in America can a no-talent ass clown like Tyler Perry put shit like this on TV. Rise up!! Take back control and build a better society!

  53. christina says:
    Wed, 30th Dec 20094:29 pm 

    Tyler perry please make more movies!!! Who ever wrote this doesn't understand the meaning of a good life lesson movie, unlike the trash of selection we have to chose from

  54. kenya says:
    Thu, 14th Jan 20104:41 pm 

    All yall get a life and shut up people watch what they like and yall cant tell people what to watch or what to pay and see if you choose not to see the plays or movie then hell dont, people will do what they want to do, so why are we talking about the why one chooses to spend their cash.And you dont have to be smart to figure that shit out. Why do we always have to bring race into things hell it is plenty movies white people write and produce that i dont like, heck i just dont watch them, it is not what i am into so be it

  55. Cat says:
    Wed, 24th Feb 20107:24 am 

    I agree. You can't bitch about something you've never even seen. And even though I'm a "white girl" i still think these movies are funny as hell. Way too religious perhaps, but I can ignore that – the rest of it is worth it!

  56. Betty says:
    Thu, 1st Apr 20105:43 am 

    I just wanted to say it sounds like someone needs a Madea in their life. This was the rudest thing I have ever read. I think that all of the madea movies are wonderful. The whole point of them are to bring biblical teaching to a world in need. Yes they do it with humor, but there isnt one thing in those movies that does not mesh with the word of God. Thank you tyler perry for staying tru to God and to your self for what you believe in. Maybe if the rest of of would do the same the world we live in wouldnt be so crappy.

  57. Frederick says:
    Thu, 1st Apr 201010:15 pm 

    Thank you so much for havin a forum for exactly what i was thinking. I also have never seen a Tyler Perry movie or show or whatever else crap he cranks out but no i dont have to to know its awful, distasteful, unoriginal,racist garbage!! And yes i know someone will post a stupid retort of the likes ive already seen, dont judge it till you see it, hes got something to say blah blah blah etc so forth… Ive never met a real Nazi but i dont have to to know that there rantings are pointless racist garbage either. And to Mazuba in particular and others in general who say that Tyler Perry gives "african american actors who are not usually appreciated a voice" are you really that stupid or just plain ignorant? He put several great african american actors who are good in other movies in his and flat out wasted there talent 2 cases in point angela basset and maya angelou. While Angelou is not an actor i guess being picked to read at the inaguration of a white president really invalidates her as a person in general and as a african american in particular. WOW thanks alot to you MAZUBA for pointing out how racist the white man in america is, i only hope that one day this country will be strong enough to elect a african american or a woman as president but i guess im just a crazy dreamer!!! In conclusion this is just racism in reverse how a man with NO TALENT AT ALL can mass produce one piece of junk after another only because he goes on talk shows to talk about how WHITEY is keepin him down. To give you all an example of what im talking about even ego-maniac James Cameron dosent call his movies JAMES CAMERONS AVATAR or JAMES CAMERONS TITANIC becuase i mean because come on that would just be another racist right wing white man selfslessly putting out stupid stuff to further his own cause or creating another show for WET(white entertainment television)….or wait he dosent do that?? oh well maybe ill just wait for his next movie/play/tv show called Precious Madea Goes to Get Married so he can Meet the Daddys Little Girls Of The Browns-based on the novel prtentious man gets away with being racist and unoriginal because people are afraid to tell him so because he'll sue somebody Tyler Perry. I cant wait for the movie of the week!!!

  58. rollingstones says:
    Mon, 7th Jun 201011:25 am 

    I have never read such harsh judgement on something someone who has never watched a Tyler movie or play. I love Madea, I live in a big city and my favorite saying is Peace Be Still, can take it in a serious way or a funny way. Tyler is a great writer and director, and he came up with Madea and I thank him for her. I hope he will be making more movies and plays. It is much more intertaining than watching Lady GA GA or some rap crap on TV. Hell it is not about racism but you had to bring that shit up and start something you will never be able to finish. So let the ones who like Tyler watch him and enjoy and you keep away from things that do not suit your high and mighty standard.

  59. G says:
    Thu, 26th Aug 20107:18 pm 

    The comments on this article are way funnier than the article itself. There are so many people getting offended over nothing remotely offensive, name-calling and shit-talking like a bunch of high schoolers! It's been very entertaining, to say the least.

    I didn't realize one was not allowed to have an opinion on something until one experienced it first. Case in point: I don't have to smell shit to know it stinks.

  60. Quinn DuPree says:
    Wed, 17th Nov 201010:20 pm 

    You dont really have to reseach something to know alot about it some things come naturally everyperson ive met says that madea is the only thing funny in the movies and that all of the movies are typical "im a black person and i have alot of problems" why cant he make a movie with mostly white people in it where there all happy or something? His movies are like candy corn you think its gonna be good but in the end it taste like sh!t. I cant laugh at a joke because a black persons saying it? how about i cant laugh because its not funny? Before you say this must be a white guy/girl youd be wrong im half white and half black and i dont even lean torwards either one.Obama first black president my ass if you can say that then you can also say obama just another white president. .all that matters is that im human and so are you and when a movie sucks its not cause a black dude wrote it , its cause it fucking sucks. P.S i only used the profanity to make the idea really POP! yea im a 17 year old guy but dont disregard what i said because of my age

  61. Madea's neighbor says:
    Wed, 29th Jun 20116:13 pm 

    Madea is going to rape the fuck out of you when she reads this shit!

  62. concerned says:
    Sun, 15th Apr 201212:14 am 

    I am an African American and I have tried to watch Tyler Perry films and I cant get through none of the ones that I've tried to watch, just my opinion, if a white person made the type of movies that he comes out with the entire black race would be offended, so should we not be offended just because he is black.he is a modern day Amos and Andy, When black people are portrayed they way he portrays us is just silly too me, but this type of entertainment is liked by a lot of people. Lets role play a little, if you just found out Tyler Perry was just a front man for a white producer that is making these movies would you still feel the same way about these movies……NO YOU WOULDN''T. You would be offended as hell for that white person stereo typing black people in that way. White people loves when a black person makes movies like his because they cant do it. A white person would be raked over the coals for making a movie like that. And he is praised for it. Offensive is offensive, Doesn't matter if Tyler Perry made it or someone white.

  63. Concerned says:
    Sun, 15th Apr 201212:26 am 

    I feel the exact same way, the Madea saga is the old black face movies using modern day black people, His movies appeal to people that grew up that way "for the most part", nothing wrong with that, his movies are just not appealing too me. The ones that are supposed to be funny are stupid.

  64. Abo says:
    Tue, 17th Jul 20125:48 pm 

    I agree.

  65. Abo says:
    Tue, 17th Jul 20125:50 pm 

    you suck.

  66. Abo says:
    Tue, 17th Jul 20125:57 pm 

    You are just straight up retarded? Lets see you write, produce, direct, and star in a play or movie over and over. Shutup because you don't know how hard it is. This is for the jacked up person who wrote this retarded, discriminating, piece of shit blog.

  67. Justin says:
    Thu, 4th Apr 20131:11 pm 

    You obviously didnt read the article because the very first sentence called out fools like you and your robotic reply.

  68. Robert says:
    Thu, 4th Apr 20131:22 pm 

    LOL!!!! A Madea movie made you cry? You've got problems.

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