NYU Doesn’t Want Poor Kids

April 30, 2009 5:00 pm     Posted in Reality  Noa - CU Boulder g+ page

nyu-mercer-st_4818While everyone at NYU dresses like they are homeless hipsters, it turns out that they can’t be,


By Noa

1) Because NYU costs $50,000 a year to attend, and
2) Because NYU hates poor people.

And by “poor people,” I mean anyone who may need a little financial aid.

The New York Post reports that admissions counselors at NYU recently gave a big “Eff You” to 1,700 potential students whose financial aid packages may not have been enough to cover their yearly tuition. Why did they call? Well,  NYU claims the calls were to help those students out, but the real message: find another school.

Even more upsetting? Students who would be the first in their families to go to college were more likely to make it onto this phone tree.

So much for being open, diverse and a school of liberal thought. NYU cares more about the ching ching than the molding of young, brilliant minds.

Oh, NYU; have we learned nothing from Pretty Woman?
Big mistake. Huge.

You could be turning away the next Steve Jobs, Sergey Brin, or CollegeCandy editor!

If I were on that call list, I’d take my money and go elsewhere.
I’m not spending 4 years where I’m not wanted!

34 Comments on "NYU Doesn’t Want Poor Kids"
  1. Kelly says:
    Thu, 30th Apr 200912:55 pm 

    The economy sucks right now- most schools can't offer great financial aid. At least NYU is warning students of the situation so they can pursue other options if they need to.

  2. Colleen says:
    Thu, 30th Apr 20095:26 pm 

    I go to NYU and I find this article extremely offensive.

    1.) Not all of us dress like homeless hipsters, thank you. Kids from NYU have a variety of really interesting and different styles, so it would be nice if you didn’t just judge us by Mary Kate Olsen.

    2.) Yes, NYU cannot give great financial aid. All students who apply know this, it is certainly not a secret. And I think there is nothing wrong with NYU informing students that they will not be able to cover all of the cost for them to go there. I am certainly not rich but I have been able to apply for scholarships elsewhere and work a lottt to be here. So no, not all of us are spoiled rich kids.

    3.) Just because NYU cannot pay for people does not mean it is not open or diverse. Obviously, it is need-blind if it allowed students who would require financial aid to apply. And likewise, just because someone can afford to go to NYU does not mean that they are only there because of their income. I have met people of all sorts socio-economic, racial, relgious, etc. backgrounds here, so I am apt to believe that we are at least just, if not more, diverse than many other universities.

    NYU is a great school with amazing opportunities and I am really upset that College Candy would post such a rude article defaming it.

  3. Candie says:
    Thu, 30th Apr 20094:53 pm 

    A lot of schools don't offer a lot of financial aid – why put NYU on the spot like that? That doesn't mean they don't "like poor kids". Oh and bringing personal style into the equation is just bad taste on the author's part.

  4. Colleen says:
    Thu, 30th Apr 20095:10 pm 

    I know it is for college students, that is why I like it. And as a college student, I simply feel like I should be able to read a site like this without my school being attacked. That's all. I love this site, that is why this article was so disappointing to me.

  5. Becca says:
    Thu, 30th Apr 20095:18 pm 

    I go to NYU as well and COMPLETELY agree that NYU is a little selfish when it comes to financial aid. But I don't think they should be prosecuted for being up front about it. Kids who aren't seriously wealthy OR who aren't willing to work hard to be here shouldn't come. The kids who got those phone calls and want to go to NYU bad enough will step it up and prove themselves. They know they deserve to be here, NYU is just admitting that they may need to work harder than others because, guess what, this is a private institution and to access the resources they provide students have to cough up a whole lot of money.

    If they don't like it, there are hundreds of other amazing schools out there. They just won't be in the middle of NYC, and that's why the kids are upset.

  6. Lisa says:
    Thu, 30th Apr 20097:11 pm 

    The way I see it…plenty of good colleges and universities can function on way less that 50 grand a year for tuition. Seriously, it's pure selfishness to not offer financial aid or lower tuition. Not a bash at NYU only, but any university or college that feels that charging over what many people make in a year of work for tuition is okay. Education should be a right.

  7. Jamielikewhoa says:
    Thu, 30th Apr 20097:19 pm 

    NYU is notorious for not so great aid packages, so this comes as no surprise to me.

  8. katharine says:
    Thu, 30th Apr 20098:30 pm 

    i was accepted to nyu and was going to go, but decided to defer for a year. i then had to decline in december because i realized i could no longer afford to go there with the economy being so horrible, even though i had gotten both scholarships and financial aid.

  9. Celina says:
    Thu, 30th Apr 200910:00 pm 

    To Colleen, Kelly, and Candie:

    CHILL. This isn’t some fancy newspaper, it’s a website written by and for college students. So stop spazzing and read something else.

  10. Amy says:
    Thu, 30th Apr 200910:32 pm 

    I agree with Lisa, education should be a right. I dont think that NYC should be bashed for not offering a lot of financial aid because there are many schools (Ivy League) that have high tuition and also dont offer a lot of aid. However, I think that the government should step in, in times like these and offer student loans with lower interest rates to encourage students to go to school.

  11. thestorysofar says:
    Fri, 1st May 20093:39 am 

    I would not presume to speak for other people, but what i GUESS may be going on is that NYU -seems- like they'd have ample funds for financial aid as they have a prestigious reputation and high tuition costs, so it seems strange that they wouldnt be able to provide aid.

    Also, I personally wasnt aware that lots of schools dont provide some financial aid, I suppose that -some- didnt, but my school for example provies a LOT of financial aid, and they're really not particularly wealthy or anything. So it does sound shocking at first glance, that NYU would deny students of aid.

  12. beverly says:
    Fri, 1st May 20095:31 am 

    If someone can't (or isn't willing) to pay the tuition for NYU…Go somewhere else.

    Seriously. Not. A. Big. Deal.

    There are plenty of other schools.

    Good for NYU…They don't *have* to supply aid.

  13. The Public Speaker says:
    Fri, 1st May 200910:27 am 

    I agree with this article. I dont think its bashing NYU, just stating the facts. Know if the facts are harsh blame NYU not the writer. The ecnomoy talk is null and void here. Everybody knows NYU has always been cheap simply because they can find enough suckers to pay the high tuition. I do agree that there are plenty of school that are far better thaN NYU incl Ivies which NYU is not. They have wealthy alum that contribute a ton of monthy, take that money and put it into the students rather than yet anonther building on campus!

  14. MS says:
    Fri, 1st May 20094:55 pm 

    It's not personal, and NYU is not being 'elitist' or heartless.

    Like many colleges this year, NYU faces a shrunken endowment (due to the market downturn and perhaps to Maddow), at the same time as there are many many more requests for financial assistance.

    I'm sorry for your personal experience of feeling dissed by the college caller, who was, no doubt, following a script and trying to help applicants understand what level of assistance is possible this year, and what the limitations are.

  15. Liz says:
    Mon, 4th May 20091:56 pm 

    This isn't really anything new for NYU. They have always had terrible aid. It's a mediocre school, not nearly worth the price tag save a few select departments. NYU doesn't have a large endowment because it's not as prestigious as it likes to think. NYU was not always regarded as Ivy level, and it shouldn't be to this day. The facilities are mediocre, the classes are huge, and the education is not (always) worth the money. On top of that, it's expensive enough to live in NYC.

  16. Ashely says:
    Thu, 7th May 20097:08 am 

    that was very mean to the people that are broke & poor so I would realy like an apolgy from you ? Yuo Know I can sue you for that?

  17. Ashely says:
    Thu, 7th May 20097:08 am 

    And also I am sue you for that threat

  18. Ashely says:
    Thu, 7th May 200912:10 pm 

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    What do you think about that ?

  19. Abby says:
    Mon, 11th May 20097:57 pm 

    Methinks Liz up there got rejected by NYU. Don’t be bitter, honey. Name is not everything.

    Anyway, this was originally reported by the NY Post, not an institution known for its journalistic integrity. Other than blogs which source the Post, it’s not been reported anywhere else. I’m going to NYU next year with an EFC around $9 and I have gotten no such call. NYU was actually extremely generous with my scholarship and, even though it’s not as generous as, say, an Ivy would be, no Ivy has classes of almost 5,000 people, so it’s not a fair comparison.

    NYU has great facilities, world-renowned professors, amazing programs, etc, and if you really want to go there obviously you have to sacrifice something. It’s called being realistic; nobody gets something for nothing.

  20. Ana says:
    Sat, 16th May 20092:17 am 

    As an NYU Student, this article started off rubbing me the wrong way. No, not all of us dress like hipster. Some, yes, others no. It's like saying everyone in Iowa wears plaid and faded, ripped denim. Unnecessary Stereotypes.

    And yes, NYU is particularly stingy with financial aid and hefty on tuition. However, NYU has stated in the past that it gets most of its spending budget from their tuition rates. On top of that, I believe colleges are required, by law, to only spend 5% of their endowment. As NYU's endowment is nowhere near as large as say, Harvard's, it's particularly hard for them to keep up their budget. Not only do they have to maintain a high standard curriculum and quality facilities for students, but it also has to pay for their massive presence in the village. We all know rent in NYC is outrageous.

    While there are some things in the budget that don't need to be there, NYU is still a quality school and although it is unfortunate that many cannot attend due to financial limitations, there are still plenty of kids who are economically disadvantaged who still attend this school with the help of financial aid.

    And quite frankly, when you apply to a college, you are telling them that you want them. they are not required to reciprocate the action. You are perfectly welcome to take your money elsewhere, but, from experience, being at NYU and in the city provides anyone with more out-of-the-classroom experiences that bolster your education than a school that may actually want your money.

  21. Mark says:
    Sun, 17th May 200910:20 am 

    NYU is for spoiled little bitches like most of you commenters. Good luck in the real world!

  22. smith2009 says:
    Tue, 26th May 20097:58 pm 

    I got accepted to NYU for the fall 09, and I was so incredibly happy until I received my financial aid package a week later. I ended up with a $6,000 scholarship and nothing else but the option to take out a $45,000 loan under a cosigner (my parents will not cosign for such a massive amount of money and the interest on that amount will create a debt worth thousands upon thousands more) for just one year of college. It's sad that the university can't offer more because it is one of the most funded universities in the world. I hate how I can't provide any meaning to all my endless hours of hard work I put in school, so I now will be going to an airhead college where partying is priority and academics are least important. Thanks NYU for killing my dream and future.

  23. mr says:
    Tue, 14th Jul 20091:32 am 

    "NYU is for spoiled little bitches like most of you commenters. Good luck in the real world!"

    Fuck that! I live below the poverty level and have had enough

    'real world" experience to last me a life time, AND I'm going to NYU next year! So are many other people like me, so shut the hell up and stop relying on hostile stereotypes to make yourself feel better. And as for the rest of the student body, they might be rich, but they're some of the nicest people I've ever met.

    But also: "Kids who aren’t seriously wealthy OR who aren’t willing to work hard to be here shouldn’t come"

    You ignorant fucktard, I've yet to meet a SEVENTEEN YEAR OLD who could make $50,000 a year, no matter how hard they worked. It's not a matter of working hard, it's a matter of being willing to be in debt for the rest of their lives!

    srsly though, nyu is ridiculous and if their film program wasn't the shit i'd never consider the place.

  24. g.m. williams says:
    Sun, 11th Oct 200910:45 am 

    Colleges are really for the upper, upper-middle, and middle class student. They are the ones who will really benefit from this type of education. I attended college with lower-income students and I wondered why they even thought of attending college- they did not have the academic skills and the class to attend a higher learning institution. Attending college should be the privilege of a selected few, not the masses. With this type of selective policy, at least when a student graduates from college, she or he will obtain a job which is equal to their education. With the mass or open enrollment to colleges in the 1970s, there was a scramble to get good jobs when I graduated because "less qualified" students got jobs which "better qualified" students should have gotten. Let the poor work after high school, college is not for them anyway.

  25. pj says:
    Wed, 16th Dec 200912:54 pm 

    By the way, the Ivy Leagues give a lot more financial aid than NYU to those who need it. At Yale, music majors get free tuition.

    You people speak about NYU like it was MIT or Princeton. "I worked so hard" blah blah blah. Unless you plan to major in one of NYU's known specialties, there are many better choices for $50K/year. For such an expensive school with so many students, their computing facilities are pretty underwhelming. And from what I hear, teaching quality is not so good either.

  26. gj says:
    Sat, 19th Dec 20097:38 am 

    I just got into NYU ED but i have to turn it down because I will be graduation with $160,000 in loans. Their Financial Aid blows. Yo uhave to make like 30k a year to get decent aid there.

  27. KimmiChan says:
    Mon, 4th Jan 20105:46 pm 

    Oh man…. Although this article is harsh, I think it speaks some truth. I mean, I'm a senior in high school graduating in May and NYU is absolutely my dream school. I knew the financial aid is bad yet I still applied. It'll be extremely disappointing to get in only to received the "sorry, we can't help you out financially" call, but I guess I still wanted to try. Urgh, does anyone have advice as to how I could possible pay for NYU as the first person in my immediate family to go to college? My parents make less than 50 k a year. =____=''

    Truly saddening, this is!

  28. Anonymous says:
    Tue, 25th May 20101:06 am 

    It's extremely disappointing. NYU has been my dream school and its a total bummer about the 50K thing. I'm pretty sure there are lots of amazing schools out there, but I'm disappointed. And my parents make less than 50K a year.

    Really disappointing.

  29. Anonymous says:
    Tue, 25th May 20101:07 am 

    And they should have better Financial Aid. I mean, for a school like NYU.

  30. Anonymous says:
    Sun, 6th Jun 20109:01 am 

    "I agree with Lisa, education should be a right. I dont think that NYC should be bashed for not offering a lot of financial aid because there are many schools (Ivy League) that have high tuition and also dont offer a lot of aid. However, I think that the government should step in, in times like these and offer student loans with lower interest rates to encourage students to go to school." – Amy

    Amy, you obviously don't know what you're talking about.

    The Ivy Leagues offer the best financial aid packages of all the colleges in the world.

    Harvard, Yale, Princeton and Columbia are free to those making under $60,000-75,000/year.

    To those making $80,000-180,000, they don't have to take out any loans and the price only goes up to $2,800/year including room, books and tuition.

    The same applies to the rest of the Ivy Leagues.

    The problem with NYU is that there are kids who got into NYU but also got into schools that are much better than NYU which offer much better financial aid packages.

    Take me for example.

    NYU Stern only offered me half in grants and the other half in loans.

    However, I also got into Vassar, Wesleyan, Brown, Cornell and Dartmouth.

    None of these schools offered me loans. All of these schools offered me almost free to free including books, room and tuition.

    The most I had to pay was for Vassar and Wesleyan, but it was only a measly $1,700/year.

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