Bad Advice Men Get: Control and Dominate Your Woman

July 8, 2009     Posted in Advice, Relationships

dominatingThis week’s article: How to Control and Dominate Your Woman by stevenmiller on advice.com.

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This article is nothing but a load of misogynistic crap about women being submissive to men. It open’s with: “Women like to be controlled and dominated. Don’t fool yourself into believing that they don’t. They do… Secretly all women desire to submit to the will of their man.”

Of course, he is sure to include a disclaimer: “First off, I’m not promoting any man to beat any woman. You can dominate her without putting the “smack down” on her.” That’s right boys, stick to verbally abusing your women, please.

And it only gets worse – much, much worse – from there.

How should a man respond when a women is nagging him? Because that’s all we ever do, right?
Miller suggests saying the following:  “WOMAN! Last time I checked I was the one with the penis in this house. You better go in that kitchen and get my dinner on the table!” Miller goes on to explain that if she tries to talk back and argue, “just shake your head no and point to the kitchen. She’ll get the message. By doing this you will subconsciously reinforce the fact that you are the dominant one in the household. You’re the man and your word is the only one that counts in the end.”
I say: Is this guy for real? Does he honestly think any self-respecting woman is going to just scurry off to the kitchen because the man with the penis said so?

And what about when you’re out shopping and she wants a new dress?
Miller suggests: “Look, you ain’t getting no new dress. Matter of fact, you be lucky if I took you to the thrift store and bought you a dress for fifty cent.”
I say: Apparently it is impossible to dominate a woman without also abusing the English language.

As if dominating women in the kitchen and at the store isn’t enough, Steve also thinks it’s important to dominate us in the bedroom.
Miller suggests: “Make sure you have her perform oral sex on you. She’s your wife and she should be willing to do that. It’s part of her being submissive. You must wear her out. You should wear her out.”
I say: I agree that a good partner should want to please you in the bedroom, but I don’t agree with raping your wife’s throat. And I most definitely don’t agree with not returning the favor.

Miller goes on: Even more important than getting a blow job, though, is making sure she makes you a sandwich afterward. Why? The reason why you do this is prove that she has been thoroughly dominated and she will express this by submissively getting ‘her man a sandwich.’ Matter a fact, she should be telling her girlfriends ‘My husband, did it so good to me, he had me up making sandwiches and kool-aide after we got done. And I could barely even walk, girl.’”
I say: I feel sick…

Have you girls had any experience with men like this? Do you think there is ANY truth to the idea that women want to be dominated?


40 Comments on "Bad Advice Men Get: Control and Dominate Your Woman"
  1. Becca says:
    Wed, 8th Jul 20098:13 am 

    This can't be real! I really think this is a joke.

  2. Kay says:
    Wed, 8th Jul 20098:16 am 

    yeah it HAS to be a joke… I think I would laugh in someone's face if they said any of this stuff to me even half seriously.

  3. Meg says:
    Wed, 8th Jul 20098:30 am 

    This article is DEFINITELY a joke. My guy friends say stuff like this all the time and it's just for fun. If my bf ever said anything like this to me I'd laugh and move on.

  4. Lauren - University says:
    Wed, 8th Jul 20098:32 am 

    Perhaps this dude meant it as a joke, but there are plenty of dumb people out there who either A) take this to heart or B) actually think this is true.

    Disgusting. If I'm giving it in bed, that dude better make ME a sandwich.

  5. Erin says:
    Wed, 8th Jul 20099:32 am 

    I think it must be a joke, it's just too terrible to be taken seriously. I think most men realize that women are really the dominant ones in many relationships and we don't want to be dominated ever, unless we are playing in bed.

  6. Blaire says:
    Wed, 8th Jul 20099:57 am 

    The only time a man can dominate me is in the bedroom…and even then, it's not for real. If a man ever said something like that to me, I'd be hard pressed not to dump his sorry ass.

    I think it must be a joke, there's no way this is for real, it's just too ridiculous.

  7. Blaire says:
    Wed, 8th Jul 200910:01 am 

    Actually, I take that back. I don't think he was joking. This is a comment from the author of the article:

    wow, you can tell when people are feeling GUILTY and CONDEMEND especially when you're pointing out what is REALLY WRONG WITH THEM!

    XXXPEACEXXX I bet this disturbed female couldn't wait to write something negative like this. Look at her response. Seriously. She has convincted herself of being exactly the kind of woman that destroys homes and the lives of men and children everywhere. Let's give this "special kind of female" a round of applause. Come on she deserves it.

    XXXPEACEXXX no hard feelings but you should just listen and stop with all that INDEPENDENT WOMAN stuff, it's has played out. It's a done deal. Move on. And I would never let a chick like you ever experience my "manpart" so there's no use of you trying to determine if I got one or not. You should be worried about having an attitude like yours.

    Cause I guarantee you that if it doesn't change chances are you're going to spending your life all by yourself with your "own car, and your own house, and your own bank account; materailly set, but seriously screwed up in all other areas of your life."

  8. Katt says:
    Wed, 8th Jul 200910:59 am 

    Come on. No one could have wrote this in a non joking way. It's just way to over the top and ridiculous. But if it is on the off chance, not a joke, then this person is obviously a mayor douche.

    I'm a big advocate of the 50/50 partnership and no one person is more important than the other in any relationship. No one is the "submissive one" or the "dominant one" in any relationship i'm in, we both decide things together.

  9. Becca- Clarion Unive says:
    Wed, 8th Jul 200911:56 am 

    Hmm… I tend to prefer being in a submissive standpoint in a relationship, however… this is WAY over the line…

    There's a big difference between being dominant and being controlling…

  10. criolle johnny says:
    Wed, 8th Jul 200912:17 pm 

    Some women are magnetically attracted to assholes. Some men can instinctively find the sickest bimbo in the club the second they walk inside.

    This article is for the guys who want to find co-dependent women and control them. Those women want to be controlled because it confirms their sense of self-worth. The woman beside the man reflects the man's image of himself. It's a mutually destructive relationship.

    If you're in a relationship with a pathetic person, YOU ARE a pathetic person.

    Sick, dysfunctional, and all too common.

    There are web sites dedicated to the men's point of view:

    http://www.hotchickswithdouchebags.com/

    I think the title tells you that most men don't exactly approve.

    We just know that it exists.

  11. Jess says:
    Wed, 8th Jul 200912:26 pm 

    Yeah, I don't think he was joking. Check out the rest of his articles, that's really how he thinks.

    In one of them he almost made sense by saying women should be "helpers" to their men, as in how can I help you with your job search or whatever. But then he goes on to say that women need to go back to their places with the men in charge. I can't even bring myself to comment one of his articles because his poor grammar is too irritating let alone his ideas.

  12. Ashley says:
    Wed, 8th Jul 20092:23 pm 

    I agree with Becca up there. It's important for a man to be masculine and have a dominant personality because it helps prove he can protect and care for his lady. But being contolling and demanding things for the sake of doing it won't win ANY girl over.

  13. jeff says:
    Wed, 8th Jul 20096:31 pm 

    lol i said ths stuff to my fiancee she would start beating me in the family jewels with her steel toad cheif shoes and so would her family

  14. beth says:
    Fri, 10th Jul 20097:17 pm 

    obviously he's kidding

  15. Billy Bob Borton says:
    Sat, 11th Jul 20092:22 am 

    Women must obey their man and must submit to his every will and desire. If she doesn't, she should be kicked to the curb.

  16. Michael says:
    Wed, 22nd Jul 200910:53 am 

    He’s not joking.

    When we stop acting like this when women stop being attracted to this kind of behaviour.

    I treat my girlfriend with respect, but a lot of people I know don’t, they treat them without respect in public, humiliating them out and about, boast about how they sexually and otherwise dominate them. And the reward, an endless cue of willing girls.

    I have far less respect for these women. Their pathetic. I don’t have any respect for the men either. But to be honest if I was going out with a girlfriend who let me get away with this kind of behaviour, I would tell them to get me a sandwich after a blowjob.

  17. reality check says:
    Tue, 4th Aug 20095:21 am 

    i dont know who these women and "men" are that are saying-oh this must be a joke or oh he's kidding right or oh he is such a weirdo because everyone knows its wrong to dominate a woman. i dont know who they are or what world they are living in because EVERY woman i have ever met LOVED being "dominated". as a matter of fact the hotter they were the more they enjoyed being "dominated". every woman likes to be dominated. some want to be completely dominated like actually telling them to clean this or cook that or go here or come here or go to bed at this time or wake up at this time or wear this or wear that or get me this or get me that with lots of supervision and appropriate punishment when infraction occur and some like a lesser degree of "domination" like praising or rewarding her when she does something that pleases you or chastising her for a bad attitude or disrespect or when she fails to accomplish one of her responsibilities. however they ALL like to be dominated. the key here is ARE YOU WORTHY OF HER SUBMISSION. most guys are not.

  18. alex says:
    Thu, 6th Aug 20094:22 am 

    hahahahah its a joke you idiots

  19. Anax says:
    Mon, 10th Aug 20096:41 am 

    Dis guy and al dat suport him r psychos.no man can dominate me.dat is 4 weak women and am sory 4 dem

  20. Linda says:
    Wed, 19th Aug 200911:49 pm 

    This is ridiculous… No human,man or woman likes to be dominated. A simple act of obedience to a request could go a long way but should never be misinterpreted as domination. If my guy should try anything of this sort, i,ll take him serious one bit..

  21. precum says:
    Wed, 2nd Sep 20097:28 am 

    which human being whants to be dominated?

    i am a guy

    i dont want treat my gf like crap but on the other hand i want to be respected

    so called dominant people can be dominant all they want—–>alone by themselfes

    if u try to opress me you can look for another boyfriend or even buddy if its a buddy

    whom exactly are dominant people going to dominate if they have noone to dominate?

  22. Zara says:
    Sun, 6th Sep 20092:03 am 

    r ya guys out of ur mind? gawd no gal dat i knw wud evr want to b dominated…dominatin in bed is diff until a gal wants to bt dominatin fr evrythng lyk telling her to do stuff is totally out of question…evry human wants to b respected…b it man or women n no women wud want to b treated as crap no matter hw much she luvs her man…hw can all does idiot thnk of treatin der women lyk a slave…n ya expect to get luv in return…des guys r big losers n neva hd ne chance to proff demselves dat dey r da man so dey decided to shw demselves to der wives or gf…go get a pros…pay her she will submit to all ya men…bt neva xpect ur wife to do dat…n also luv n respect ya in return…she'd rather spit in your face

  23. Brad says:
    Mon, 16th Nov 200911:21 pm 

    this dude is a fucking idiot. i get the whole domination as a sexual fetish thing-not for me-but in a relationship there is no place for it. i want a girl that has the balls-figuratively speaking- to tell me to fuck off, but will still let me have my way once in a while

  24. Darwin - New York Un says:
    Tue, 17th Nov 20091:54 pm 

    More power to him. Decent guys out there are fine with having dickwads like that around. It definitely helps kill the competition. Go be a macho asshole all you want, just don't complain when you're sitting at home with tears all over penis jacking off.

  25. Dora Miller Jackson says:
    Tue, 17th Nov 20096:43 pm 

    All Relationships are work tough or easy. Real respect can make anyone feel great. If you're not sure how you feel find a good doctor. If you're concerned with a person's life be honest. If a person male or female has problems – take them

    seriously. Do you really want the man sitting at home with

    tears or the woman? How about we focus more on our real

    problems. Elders and children. I can't take the crying.

  26. Sameena says:
    Mon, 18th Jan 20107:28 pm 

    A man who was 25 and had never even kissed a girl had those views. in the real world, men like this see a lot of rejection. I was married to a man who tried to dominate me, eventually he lost all control over me and he will never regain it again; we are divorced. And in the 2 years that we have been divorced, I have rejected every man who came across dominating. To me, respect is more important than "love" – because like most women, I have realized love without respect is no love at all.

  27. Sarah says:
    Thu, 21st Jan 20107:54 am 

    I found the article quite funny and as everyone has already said, there is no mistaking this for anything but a joke. To be fair though, my 'boyfriend' is an idiot and although he's joking when he says stuff about women and kitchens, I think he's so thick that some part of him really believes that. He asked me how to spell sand the other day!

  28. Derek says:
    Sun, 10th Oct 20105:32 pm 

    I would doubt that such things are designed to be followed to the letter. However, I am not surprised to hear someone finally reiterate the natural order of things. The west is now filled with females programmed to be arrogant and abusive with absolute faith in their own infallibility, and frankly, it's sickening. Feminist mantra is that "women are people" unless of course a man could be taxed/enslaved/prosecuted unjustly. Then women are special! I am sick of the double standards of the violent, egomaniac western woman. Odd, how an entire population is so easily programmed that male dominance is unacceptable but female dominance is.

  29. Shining Shadow says:
    Thu, 28th Apr 20111:41 pm 

    Anyone who thinks that women don't desire to be ruled over has never read women's romance fiction. And no, it is NOT different; the thoughts come from somewhere, so where do they come from? That said, any male who thinks that 'dominance' means treating a female like dirt should be culled from the gene pool. Women are Queens, who want Kings; not Prostitutes looking for Pimps.

    And if you disagree with this…fine. Be wrong.

  30. Camilla says:
    Tue, 17th May 20118:32 pm 

    Hahaa, I find it funny that there should be a whole article on how people think others are bastards, its his opinion leave it to him, he probably has led a life different from yours. I for one hate feminists also I know for a fact that most normal women like being dominated, maybe not abused as that guy suggests, but if you take the exaggeration out of what he says, he speaks many truths, don't spoil her too much and make sure she feels useful to you, any bad character I am sure she will take as a challenge for her to change.
    Girls are amazing and the direct opposite of men which makes all relationships challenging and/or beautiful.
    If you feel bad, and want to find a metro-sexual/gay man, have a look in the mirror and get a life, stop letting extreme feminists and gays dictate how you see life . As a woman myself i know what I'm talking about. SO girls, don't be afraid to admit you like being dominated by men, to give them the power over you, you allow them to show you who they really are and if they are kind hearted or not… Down with feminism and gays !!! =D

  31. Daddy says:
    Fri, 26th Aug 20114:33 am 

    When collective girl-dom cease trying to "train" men, men should not consider doing it them women instead. Until then, fuck all you clowns who think Miller's wrong even in principle. Whether his specific recommendations work or not, any man thinking that SHE has not been raised by the entire culture of women to at least try to make HIM her bitch has spent his life being made one. Controlling her from day one is how you weed out the absolute losers, fellas! If she balks at your laying down the law you kick her ass to the curb. She's fine to go find a bitch if she wants (that's why there are lesbian bars), but you're not supposed to be it. Your mamas lied to you!

  32. Cold says:
    Sun, 28th Aug 20115:47 am 

    Treating women with equality has just led to widespread divorce. Men these days are self defeating and pussies.

  33. Shocked says:
    Wed, 14th Sep 201110:49 pm 

    Camilla maybe you should realize that you are not the only girl in yhe world. Some people like to be dominated, some men, some women. But that is for each person to decide and often has to do with sexual preferences. But even if someone happens to like being dominated in bed, or even in general that does not cancel out the fact that every person, girl or guy, deserves respect and to be treated equally. It had absolutely nothing to do with feminism or gays, it has to do with basic human rights.  Just because some ignorant pigs believe that “all women secretly want to be dominated” does not make it true. Maybe you should think about why the tables have turned so violently to empower women and bring down men… Men have been dominating women for so long that it is only natural that it is more accepted in society for a women to be dominant. I’m not saying it’s right, I’m saying it makes sense why it is happening this way and people need to look at history and how things have progressed.  All you assholes trying to generalize everyone based on your experiences alone are hopeless and pathetic. There is a huge difference between two consenting adults participating in some sexual power-play and a man (or woman on the other hand) just assuming that he may dominate a woman because he is a stupid ignorant fuck head. There are always extremes (like a crazy feminist hating all men OR a psycho extremist Christian hating all gays).  Stop generalizing! And stop the mindless hate. Please just educate yourself rather than placing meaningless blame and hate on others you don’t even know or understand.

  34. Reader says:
    Thu, 29th Sep 20118:51 am 

    I feel the man who wrote the story has issues. I would like to say there is nothing wrong with Dominating a person if they want to be dominated. In most cases in those situation both people do respect each other. In my exp. It is all about love, trust, respect, and wanting the best for each other. It is about who they are and what they both want. It is not about abuse. I dont beleave anyone would think of what he wrote as being true or right. On the topic I think this quote from anais nin gives her perspective. "I do not want to be the leader. I refuse to be the leader. I want to live darkly and richly in my femaleness. I want a man lying over me, always over me. His will, his pleasure, his desire, his life, his work, his sexuality the touchstone, the command, my pivot. I don’t mind working, holding my ground intellectually, artistically; but as a woman, oh, God, as a woman I want to be dominated. I don’t mind being told to stand on my own feet, not to cling, be all that I am capable of doing, but I am going to be pursued, ******, possessed by the will of a male at his time, his bidding." I prefer it to his story.

  35. Steven Miller says:
    Sat, 8th Oct 20117:32 pm 

    Hello All,

    My name is Steven Miller, you know the "sick dysfunctional individual (or so most of you seem to think) who wrote the article for Advice.com "How to Control and Dominate Your Woman". Let me say this in my defense, this article was written to prove a point. What is this point?

    Females run relationships in America.

    AND JUDGING BY ALL OF THE BACKLASH THAT I HAVE BEEN GETTING FROM WOMEN WHO READ THIS ARTICLE; IT"S TRUE.

    AMERICAN MEN ARE BASICALLY BEING CONTROLLED AND DOMINATED BY AMERICAN WOMEN. WE NEED TO STOP PRETENDING LIKE THIS ISN'T THE CASE.

    Females are responsible for breaking up most marriages (it's statistically proven) and females are the primary people who decide if a relationship is worth having. The old saying about "happy wife, happy life' is true. It's as if a man has to worship a woman and her feelings in order to have a good life.

    Ultimately I will not worship a woman's feelings, emotions, desires and vagina just to be happy and have a good life. I hat to say this, but with the way that most women think now-a-days in America (especially the younger ones between the ages of 18-35) a man is better off getting a prostitute.

    At least he doesn't have to concern himself with all of her BS (which is really what is coming out the majority of American women; regardless if they're black, white, or latino) and he can just pay and go.

    One more thing, I want to add this very important point;

    I love women, I have three daughters, but I refuse to pump garbage in their head.

    What garbage am I talking about?

    "Baby you a Princess and you deserve the world"

    Hey ladies, your daddies lied to you. I don't care how much money you got or how important your family's name is. If you live in America, there is no such thing as a monarchy here, SO NOBODY IS A PRINCESS.
    The only male that owes my three daughters anything in life is me and their future husbands if they are lucky enough to find one and stay with him forever (like they say in their vows)

    "A relationship isn't just dependent on what you feel or think, feelings are important but use your brain"

    I tell my 3 very young daughters this, so they won't grow up thinking that they have to leave their husbands and break up their families, just because they "FEEL" things aren't working out. In some cases maybe, but in all cases? No, I don't believe that's true. I tell my girls that their feelings change all the time and just because they feel one way about something doesn't mean that they all ways will feel the same way about it. Don't ever make a decision just based off of what you're feeling at the moment, give it time

    "I tell all of my girls that they "SHOULD" not have sex until they are married and once they find a husband that is attractive to them they should "SCREW" his brains out".

    Let's be realistic my daughters are people and they are going to want to have sex when they're older. I'm trying to delay this process as much as possible by telling them to have sex, but do it with your husband.

    "I want my daughters to graduate college and start their careers, then find a husband, that way money won't be so much of an issue with them and they can focus on love and building a solid life with a person that they are married to."

    I don't hate females, if so I would hate my daughters, it's just that I can't put up with the way a lot of women think, it's irritating to me now to sit and listen to most of the garbage that is coming out of the mouths of most females.

    what is even more irritating is how men are able to put up with it without losing their minds if they decide to stay with her.

    Vagina is good, I will admit that, and having access to one (through marriage of course) any time of the day, well that is one perk that I really did enjoy when I was married to my first and second wives (it would've been three but I had to step back and do things different this time around; and no that isn't code for "I decided be gay" so let's just move beyond that thought

    LOOK

    FEMALES, YAW CAN DO BETTER, SINCE YOU ARE THE ONES THAT REALLY RUN THESE RELATIONSHIPS, DO BETTER, THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING OF YOU

  36. gary says:
    Thu, 13th Oct 20119:56 am 

    the problem started when we began giving women too much power.

  37. Smarter than you. says:
    Sun, 29th Jan 20121:12 pm 

    Hi, Steven Miller, I am a 21st century intellectual and an expert on the one thing I study most: self-reinforcing inbred ideology.

    Women learn the social norm of being dominated by a male from watching the women who raised them be dominated from the men in their lives. Repeat, repeat, repeat…

    What's interesting is that these same women you put down as "dominatin' they mens" are also contributing… which is something you can't do, because you have nothing to contribute. So we can all sense a certain degree of envy from someone who has never been with a woman who is capable of more than
    a) Crying
    b) Opening and closing her mouth (on command)
    c) Making sandwiches.

    But on a less serious note… what's with all the sandwiches? Don't you ever eat anything that is not a sandwich? Seriously.

  38. Still smarter. says:
    Sun, 29th Jan 20121:27 pm 

    There are a few types of women in this world. The one he is describing are called: "Trash".

    Sometimes, "trash" allow the men they are with to beat them. Sometimes, they even let the men they are with have sex with their underage daughters and in some extreme cases, the men kill their wives and/or children.

    When a female is of age and already believes that the purpose of a woman is to perform oral sex, prepare sandwiches and shut the fuck up, she can never become a productive member of civilized society. She is destined to have throat cancer, mentally retarded children and an abusive, cheating spouse.

    It is a symptom of cultural decay, but also of human stupidity… that a person would believe that doing things the wrong way is better than doing them the right way, simply because of spite or aggression. See obstinate.

  39. SMRT says:
    Sun, 29th Jan 20121:40 pm 

    There are these things called paragraphs.

    Exclamation points should be reserved for instances of extreme expression, realization or significance. Like, if you were reporting a discovery that could save millions of human lives… you would use an exclamation point.

    "STOP GENERALIZING!" = gay

    I'll bet money you are a militant LGBT activist.

  40. The Ajax says:
    Sun, 5th Feb 20127:16 am 

    Ignore "criolle johnny's" comment, his opinion is invalid.

    Its proven that the healthiest children come from parentage of which the man is firmly masculine and dominant(Doesn't necessarily mean disrespectful and asshole behaviour) & the woman is the opposite.
    If your partner likes to be dominated, is willing to be dominated, then by all means f****** dominate her. Lol. Its fine, really.

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