I remember when my best friend handed me a well-worn copy of He’s Just Not That Into You. I had been dealing with a rather strange relationship involving a boy who loved to spoon and cuddle, but had zero interest in trying to jam his tongue down my throat.
“Just read it,” she urged.
And I did. In fact, I spent the next 6 hours curled up in my papasan chair having aha moment after aha moment. I realized at long last that there are so many obvious signals guys were sending that I just refused to acknowledge. And now that I had, I was able to move on to greener pastures…or boys who liked to snuggle AND see me naked.
Four years and a film adaptation later, I sit here – still single – wondering if instead of fixing my dating ways, He’s Just Not That Into You has totally effed up my ability to find or maintain a relationship.
As we all know, the purpose of the book was to remind women that guys are simple creatures and if they are into you, they will let you know. If they aren’t introducing you to their parents, they aren’t into you. If they aren’t calling you back after you hook up, they aren’t into you. You get the gist.
And while all of that makes sense, it seems (to me, at least) a little too black and white for real life. I get that guys are really easy to read, but I have come to see that this book is just pushing women to reject men before the men reject them.
Men that probably don’t want to reject them, mind you.
The book sets the bar so high that it is almost impossible for guys to make the grade. Yes, guys should call right away when they are into you, but not all of them do. Some of them get busy, some of them don’t know if you are into them, and some of them just prefer to poke you on Facebook. Yet, when he doesn’t call or text immediately (or take you home for Thanksgiving after dating for 3 months) we freak out, hit the bottle (hard), cry a little bit (to the sounds of John Hiatt blaring from iTunes), and write that bastard off.
“I don’t need to sit around and wait for someone. He’s clearly not into me.”
And like that, we’ve pushed a perfectly good guy away before he even has the chance to prove that he is that into us. He hasn’t even gone up to bat yet and he’s somehow already struck out.
No one wants to be strung along by someone they care about, but are we acting too soon? Sure, the beginning stages of a relationship are so frustrating with all that uncertainty, but isn’t that the fun of it all? I’m not saying we should continue to cuddle with a guy who clearly just wants someone to fill that empty space in his bed, but maybe we could give guys a little leeway.
If we don’t, what will our future hold? A knitting habit and 17 cats?
Brittney says:
Wed, 15th Jul 20094:08 pm
i agree..i loved the book but it seems a little to the extreme. and suited for the perfect world with perfect guys…both of which i have yet to find..
Caroline says:
Wed, 15th Jul 20094:42 pm
I. LOVE. THIS. BOOK.
Changed my life…but yes. It makes you shake your head at every little boo boo a guy will make. I think the reason why college girls have a hard time with it is because the book talks about SERIOUS relationships. The kind you should have before getting married. Not the kind of fun, silly relationships in college.
So while us college girls are thinking about finding the absolute perfect man, the college boys are looking for some one-night fun. Poo.
alyssachristine says:
Wed, 15th Jul 20094:51 pm
ugh just the beginning of this article scared me to death.
i had a guy act clearly “not into me” on and off for a year, my freshman year of college to make it even worse and more confusing—he “forgot” about me for a month when we went home for winter break, he took 8 months of daily sleepovers to finally ask me out, and, the “clincher”, he had a few weeks where he rotated which girl he would go out/ come home with…and for some reason I put up with it.
I pushed other guys away.
I let myself get hurt over and over ( more than even imaginable, when he broke up with me over the summer because it was no longer “convenient” for him…I cried for three months straight, and didn’t sleep on the off chance that I would get a drunk call from him.)
Why does this scare me?
…he’s now my boyfriend of nine months.
He says he was trying to convince himself not to like me, that his previous relationship made him hate all relationships, that he was immature and he’s changed a lot.
And I want to believe it. Really, I try.
It’s just that every single little thing he does wrong screams “he changed his mind!” “He doesn’t want you anymore”
“he was NEVER into you”
I really really hope its not that black-and-white of an issue.
Like, a guy doesn’t have to be either into you or not into you, forever and ever, happily ever after.
It could just involve a whole lot of circumstances, or changes, or decisions…and that the girl might just be thinking way too far into it ( kinda what the book suggests, or goes against, at the same time.)
I’m not sure if I’m in support of or against the idea- but now I’m freaking out.
Any thoughts?
Sam says:
Wed, 15th Jul 20097:55 pm
Aw, alyssachristine, don’t freak out. Some guys do change – and it all depends on how he’s treating you now, if things are better now that you two are together; then by all means ignore the book and focus on real life! But if you’re having some doubts (which it obviously sounds like you are) then maybe you should pay more attention to it. Women’s intuition is pretty powerful.
I definitely don’t think it’s a black and white issue though. In the perfect world it would be, but there is so much going on in real life than it is anything but perfect.
I think I just talked in a long circle though and didn’t help.. but I feel for you and when I read your reply I wanted to give you a non creepy internet hug. I’ve been seeing my guy since February and I haven’t met his parents.. but there’s a lot going on in that situation and it is not the time for me to meet them and I kind of don’t want to anyways.. but if I took that instance my boyfriend would not be into me, which I know is false. Just focus on your gut feeling! Life is too short, if he doesn’t make you happy and feel secure- move on, someone else will.
Chin up love!
Kay says:
Wed, 15th Jul 20098:02 pm
alyssachristine, i totally agree with most of what Sam said…
I think its worth it to remember how you felt when all the crappy stuff was happening, and try to get back to what your original impressions of the situation were… they’re usually pretty accurate. All that stuff can get confusing, I know! Good luck!
Guy says:
Wed, 15th Jul 20099:07 pm
So I haven’t read this particular book but I thought I’d throw my two cents in as a guy.
Dealing in extremes is always a bad thing, because almost nothing is on either end of an extreme. With that said, girls should actively try to distinguish between bad behavior and tentative behavior.
For instance, this notion about calling. Well, girls are told that if guys don’t call right away then they’re not interested. Guys are told that if they call too quickly they’re desperate.
Not taking you home to meet parents is very different than not going out with you so he can go out with another girl.
Honestly, the thing girls need to realize is that they need to get out of their own way. Girls like guys who are cocky and funny, have a lot going on, don’t need them to be around, etc., etc. (and I’m not saying treat them like garbage). BUT, then they want action ASAP. It is an incredible contradiction.
Ashley says:
Wed, 15th Jul 20099:09 pm
I like to believe a man should put in just as much effort as I do in a relationship. After all, if I can think to try something romantic now and then why can’t he? So in this instance I think the book is right. If you call a boy and he never calls back then he just aint worth it. Any man that wont make an effort when you clearly are aint worth it.
Alana- Boston University says:
Thu, 16th Jul 20098:02 am
I refused to see the movie…I knew it would make me paranoid!
Melanie - Northeastern University says:
Thu, 16th Jul 20094:47 pm
I. Hate. This. Book.
kiki says:
Sun, 19th Jul 20097:27 pm
I agree with the article. You see, as if all the romantic movies were’nt enough to make us idealize relationships, here comes a book that make us set the standards even higher.
The perfect guy does not exist, and it’s a mistake to just sit a around and wait for him. I too, believe that I was a victim of romanticism.
Grey does exist, and it’s worthless to try to analize a guy by general advice, because what one guy has the other one lacks, cause none of them have it all!
I think we should try to use our personal experience and common sense and see things as they are rather than supporting our decisions on advice from a book that was not written based on our particular situation.
It’s books like these that can make you paranoid and expect to much when really, you probably had it all, all along.
And i feel this happened to me, I se the bar to high as you said.
JohnE says:
Mon, 20th Jul 20095:02 pm
Here is the thing many colege aged women like guys that treat them poorly. It is the twisted logic of any guy desperate enough to be nice to me isn’t good enough for me. I’ve seen it way too many times.
Mel says:
Tue, 21st Jul 200912:57 am
So… I’ve never read the book. But if the book takes after the movie, didn’t it all come kind of full circle? To show that it wasn’t all black and white? Because in some cases, yes, the guy wasn’t into the girl, but in the case of what’s-her-face and Justin Long’s character, he was just as screwed up as she was–he thought he wasn’t into her and he really was into her and all this other crap.
I don’t know.
I got that it was showing that any sort of relationship was about compromise: the couple where the woman wanted to get married and the guy didn’t.
There was also the one where it showed that–come on, seriously?–when someone isn’t into you, they’re not. Example being the couple where the man was cheating on his wife (and she pretty much forced him into that relationship–though I personally think that whole situation is mostly his fault, but that’s just me).
And finally there was the situation where the guy could possibly-be-into-you-but-might-not-know-it-because-he-didn’t-really-know-what-the-hell-he-wanted-in-a-long-term-relationship.
And then there was the guy who liked the girl who was sleeping with the married man and she was just leading him on. I don’t know how it ends in the book, but he ended up finding love in the girl who tried to get relationships through MySpace.
In all honesty, there shouldn’t be anything to worry about just because of a book. It seems that guys are just as messed up as girls when it comes to romance–we’re all only human and mistakes happen. Where we all need to be straight forward and give “yes” or “no” answers, we don’t–sometimes in a weird attempt to be nice, even though it just makes everything worse.
…
Maybe I just don’t understand why people attach themselves to relationships that are only, say, a few weeks or a month/two months long. Mostly because it used take me a while (as in months) to get attached to anyone–even then it still takes quite a bit for me to trust someone thoroughly.
I guess all I’m trying to say is there’s no need to get attached after, like, a month; and no need to get upset about a guy that never called. Life is way too short to worry about something that can’t be completely controlled. Now if romance happens, it happens, but there’s no need to let that be the only thing you wait for and then get upset when it *doesn’t* happen. That’s just a ridiculous thing to worry about.
That’s my two cents.
P.S.- Now I have to read this book just so I can make sure I didn’t throw out my opinion COMPLETELY blind–right now I can only hope that the movie is pretty freaking close to the book.
a girl says:
Wed, 22nd Jul 20091:46 am
Thank you for this article. It seems to me that many of my female friends use the theories from this book as an excuse to be bitchy and demanding in their relationships with men. I don’t know why women have come to believe that men have to do all the work in a relationship. What happened to meeting each other half-way, like reasonable adults?
Broken says:
Fri, 24th Jul 200912:07 pm
I’m glad you realized setting the bar too high or being too bitter are bad things. Honestly it happens to guys too. We get hurt one too many times and suddenly we cannot take a joke anymore or we alienate wonderful women. I’m guilty of this and damn it, it’s hard to move past it. I am trying though.
Sammie says:
Fri, 24th Jul 200911:07 pm
its a book. we are raised to not believe everything we read for a reason. if this book tried to make things more fluffy, then it wouldnt sell. its not saying that every time a guy asks this way or that, then hes just using you. like in the movie, there are exceptions to every rule.
Nikki says:
Sun, 26th Jul 20094:23 pm
Well… contrary to most of what’s being said; I loved this book. The movie was a waste of time.. but the book was funny! I think people took this book way too seriously and aren’t enjoying it for what it is! a funny book! For me, it helped bring in a little humour to the otherwise painful sting of being rejected. Afterall, that’s pretty much what ‘he’s just not that into you’ is trying to say.
I found this book liberating and inspiring in a way for us all to remember that we’re allowed to have standards and that It’s great to laugh things off sooner than later….
I found alot of this book to be true and helpful in my 20′s dating life.. and it helped me to recognize a true worthy man when he came into my life.
Nikki says:
Sun, 26th Jul 20094:25 pm
and btw… It also helped me to realize that if you’re going to have standards for men and how they are to behave in your ‘relationship’… we ought to have them for ourselves! Guys like being treated special just as much as we do…. I think us girls tend to forget that!
Stangelina says:
Mon, 27th Jul 20095:10 am
Oh my GAW!!!! The movie to this was so damn dumb because it freakin had Jennifer Aniston in it. You know, the dumb bitch who let Brad Pitt get away and is almost 50 and still hasn’t found a husband. Why the hell was she cast in the movie???? She is freakin old and washed up.
Mike in the gray says:
Tue, 28th Jul 200910:08 am
I seriously dislike this book. If women need to read a book to tell them how to feel, there’s something wrong. What ever happened to loveing someone unconditionally anyway? I always thought that was love.This book sets conditions no man can seriusly suffice. Every guy is going to mess up. This book makes it seem like theres a perfect perfect man.I understand there’s no such thing as a perfect woman. Call me silly but this book makes women feel worthy of themselves by having them push away everyman that wrongs them.
Nick P says:
Thu, 6th Aug 20093:01 pm
I haven’t read the book, but I’ve been googling to get quotes & excerpts and get the jist. I also just saw the movie last night.
I’m a 36 y/o happily married man. I found this discussion by above googling, I haven’t been cruising for college chicks.
I’ve been discussing with my wife the common mistakes women make and I’ve wanted to help them out, because they really give men too much power. I wrote a really crappy blog that I will eventually edit to a decent level on dating/relationships – http://therealdealondating.blogspot.com/ It’s a super-rough, unedited, and very blunt. It’s not spectacular but they are our [the wife and I] ideas. I wrote it all as she is too frustrated telling women the truth and watching them ignore her advice. Our blog was written before I saw the movie or read one iota about the book. So, if the points are similar it is because men think alike, not a conspiracy.
Anyhoo, what spawned this is the movie. I saw the movie and it had the right messages until Gigi flipped out after the bar manager’s house party. Then it proceeded to undermine nearly every true point about male behavior/thinking and reinforce every wrong thing women believe. It was a travesty. The movie ends up encouraging women to remain romantic idealists to their own detriment.
That’s when I became curious about the book. Is the book as stupid as the movie? Is the book guiding women towards self-destructive dating behavior just like the movie?
From what I can read online, not really. It looks like someone [probably a woman or maybe a man who profits by women's bad habits] ruined the lessons of the book in the movie.
From my second hand limited reading the book look essentially correct and makes my blog somewhat duplicative.
The book seems not to take into account shy guys like me who have trouble making the first move. But after you go out the other points seem generally correct. I’m sure I diverge on other issues as well, but by and large it seems correct.
I’ll be hitting the library to actually read the book soon. I may end up deleting my blog and just tell women to read this book if its good enough. I’ll see. If I remember I’ll come back here and update you folks.
Good luck.
Stacy E says:
Thu, 6th Aug 200910:41 pm
My mom sent me the book after a failed long-term relationship in my late 20s. I have such mixed feelings about it now. In some instances it has helped avoid wasting time on men that I realized were not that into me, much sooner than I would’ve known it before reading the book. In other ways, I feel as though the advice I took to heart has held me back and prevented me from even making the slightest first move, ever. At times I have felt robbed of my own assertiveness and confidence. Worst of all, this book dis-empowers women, which leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Overall, I’d say its worth reading, but not worth swallowing hook, line, and sinker. Certainly NOT worth ruining your life!
Married 14 years says:
Wed, 19th Aug 20096:56 pm
Ladies,
I’ve been happily married for 14 years. I’m sorry to tell you, but this book is crap. I asked my husband out for the first time (he had thought about it but was sure I would say no) and after we went out on our first date, he did not call me for a MONTH. He is well educated and good looking, but he has never been that confident with women…some guys are just terrified of rejection. This book would terrify any woman about making the first move. Don’t buy it – I’m married today because I DID make the first move.
Recently, a friend of mine married her boyfriend of SIX years. We all told her to dump him many times, but she insisted she loved him and refused. Lo and behold, when he was ready, he asked her. If she’d read this book, she’d still be single!
Krissie says:
Thu, 20th Aug 20092:58 pm
So, this guy I know, he na dI have been friends for a few months. I talked him through a bad breakup and he in turn talked me through one. We have always flirted relentlessly back and forth via text email and phone. Well, this past week something happened and I don’t know what to make of it… hopefully someone here can help…
He came to my house for dinner – and was acting completely nervous. Which kind of took me by surprise. When we sat down to eat, he never did look up at me when we were talking or anything. WE chill on the couch to watch tv and he asks if we can go lie down and watch it… Sure – he leaves the room to let me get dressed in my jammies and he in his – very respectful, I thought. We cuddle up, and he starts telling me – in whispers – how amazing I am – beautiful smart – and he kisses me. Then proceeds to “please” me… After that, he’s holding me and kissing my face – forehead, chin, lips all of it… Then asks “Since this is the first date, can we wait?” Well, in my head – I thought he was being respectful. Now, this book has made me not so sure. His texts are less aggressive and more flirty and refers to me as “babe” a lot… And we were going to get together on Friday, but he now tells me he has the contractors trying to finish his bed/bath remodel sooner than expected. He told me he wasn’t spooked but needs space and to stay on top of the contractors. WTH? Help… I don’t know what to think now.
Miranda says:
Sat, 3rd Oct 20096:19 pm
My problem with this book was that it raised the following question… What if you’ve been dating guys for 10 years and none of them have ever acted as if they’re into you?
The facts says:
Sat, 7th Nov 20097:50 pm
hey that book is true to the point.. you ladies have no idea how unattractive interest can be. If you throw yourself at someone who is (in your head, the perfect guy) you will often get rejected for it.. Most guys like the game love is (its a methaphore dont take it litterally) and by giving him many compliments a.s.o you are ruining it for him. Ehm, this is My perspective so dont be pissed if it contradicts your own
sarah says:
Mon, 23rd Nov 200910:18 pm
really? Is it really too much to ask that a guy admit he’s dating you and NOT sleep with other girls, etc.. most of the things this book is talking about are pretty basic if you ask me. I’ve definitely dated guys who meet the criteria in ALL of these areas.. after that, you move to the nitty gritty stuff. These are not picky standards.
Amira says:
Sat, 5th Dec 20096:36 pm
What you girls don t seem to get is this : if we -females- let the guys be such crap on us, they will be. Yes, it s hard to find the right man. It s not easy to keep going until it happens. Still, if guys realise that it isnt so easy to trick and fool girls anymore, they will change and this is the only way they will ever change. Unless we learn to set the bar high, guys will not try to jump over it. For this reason, I love the book and I go for it.No woman should give up just because the fight is tough. In fact, we are the reason for all those shit guys out there not to make an effort to be better with us…cause we put up with them. well…not me…
Happy go Lucky says:
Thu, 10th Dec 20094:00 am
The book is awesome and the film is total crap. I was so upset when I saw it because I realise so many people would watch the movie and not read the book. I do agree with Nikki – don’t swallow everything you read. Take what you can to apply to your life and leave the rest as light-hearted banter. The book is fun and has many valid points.
The issue of a guy being to shy to ask you out is debatable and I think it can apply in ‘real life’ but at the same time – there are also guys that will not stay away if they are interested and then there are those who are interested but stay away in order to keep you interested. Its all helluva confusing!
I don’t think its looking for the perfect guy and there are guys out there for all you girls who feel like you’ll never find someone. I think we should keep our options open to guys who are interested but also keep our guard up on who we let into our hearts.
Another very interesting read is ‘Stop wondering if you’ll ever meet him’ by Ryan Browning Cassaday and Jessica Cassaday – but again – take it with a pinch of salt.
http://www.stopwonderingbook.com/index.html
Hope it helps some of you
Vanilla says:
Mon, 14th Dec 200910:20 pm
Who cares, seriously… Ladies, get your education, have a career, stay in good shape (physically and mentally), radiate with confidence, and let men throw themselves at you. And if some d-bag doesn’t call you back after the nth date, then the heck with him!! Move onto the next guy. And yes, be selective! Don’t just settle for some guy that has smell, or has issues, or has a small penis (but is great with children whatever), or has low self-esteem as he is balding etc.
I’ve been married to a handsome & successful man for ten years, and men stil throw themselves at me – with no success of course. Take it from me, there is nothing more attractive than a self confidant powerful independent woman that doesn’t give a flying F about men – they find her irresistible!
robotulism says:
Thu, 17th Dec 20096:42 pm
I have read this book over and over (it is in my bathroom, you know how that goes.) I have to admit, it has made me cynical as hell. I am always telling people that ask me for advice to just drop it, or whatever, sometimes it’s what they should do. Other times, it ends up working out and I look like and ass.
Really, though, it made me a cynic, because I believed it all. I am such a miranda. Pbbth.
kate says:
Fri, 18th Dec 20096:10 pm
I completely agree with you. I haven’t read the book for these exact reasons. I have skimmed through it however, so I know the gist of it. I felt reading it would make me cynical. You’re right, the uncertainty is the fun of it, and if we get hurt in the process well that’s part of it too, right?
Nikki says:
Sun, 20th Dec 20092:14 am
This book is a peice of crap. I always made the first move with men and sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn’t but I would hate to be so scared all the time to put myself out there, which is what this book teaches women. My best friend refers to this book like a “bible” and refuses to approach any guy even if they show signs that they like her. When I try to talk to her about it, she calls me the “expectation” because I am married and I did ask my husband out the first time we met and I have had relationships where I have made the first move.
I think all this book is doing is scaring the hell out of single women to the point where they are not willing to do anything to start up a relationship. The truth is some guys are nervous and scared to make the first move but, according to this book, all men are capable of walking right up to a woman that they don’t know and asking them out. That just isn’t true for all situations.
Nikki says:
Sun, 20th Dec 20092:17 am
I meant “exception”
Mollie says:
Fri, 25th Dec 200912:29 pm
I’ve never actually read the book, but what women should really be asking themselves is “Why should I be into HIM if he doesn’t call me after a date or ask me to meet his parents, or only calls me after 2am? Why do I want a guy who makes me feel insecure?”
I’m smart, funny, ambitious and incredibly pretty. I don’t care if he’s “into me” or not, if he doesn’t make me feel special and wanted then he’s not worth my time.
fedup says:
Tue, 5th Jan 201011:03 pm
well I was just told “he’s just not that into you” by one of my best girlfriends about a guy that I was in a short relationship with a year ago, yet we still see each other and have “sleepovers”. I feel like I should know this…I own the book…loved it, then HATED the movie. I feel like every girl was the exception in the movie…but the book was trying to convince me that I will never be the execption.
I’m at a stand still with him…and sometimes I think that I should take the advice that the book gives. But then I think about our personal situation and I make sense of it.
I am confident and I do know that I deserve someone who doesn’t want to wait around to commit to me. But, it’s easier said than done.
Maybe I’m just making the “excuses” that the girls in the book make…who knows. I think guys and girls in their 20′s are just trying to figure out what they want and who they are going to be in life. …just wishing I knew the outcome of it.
Imogen says:
Sun, 17th Jan 20107:27 am
I LOVE THIS BOOK. yes it may not always be true to real life, and yes it doesnt always get you a boyfriend, but what i have found is that IT GETS THOSE WASTES-OF-SPACE out of your life.
now my story is that i read this book, thought it was great, i was empowered by this new knowledge and believed i would never fall for another creep again. how wrong i was. yet, today, i picked up this book, talked to a few of my closest friends, and realised that the boy i was ‘sort of dating but not really’ was JUST NOT THAT INTO ME.
heres how it went.
so i met this boy way back in september, he had a girlfriend but would constantly flirt with me, and i would back, hey it was just a bit of fun right? Well in November, he told me that he REALLY liked me. Now, this doesnt happen a lot to me. i dont have boys falling about me, professing their feelings for me as much as i would like. so when he said that to me, you bet i was flattered, but he STILL had a girlfriend so when he asked me to kiss him, i said no. later, he said ‘you’re the only girl to ever turn me down like that’ and I STILL DIDNT SEE HIM FOR THE JERK HE WAS. a few weeks later, we went on a walk, he said he really really liked me, and i fell for those easy words and we kissed. i thought he would break up with her, its the right thing to do.. they were on a break anyway. so i thought by january, he will be single, he can be with me.
its january. hes not single. hes still trying it on with me, and the worst thing is, i let him. but i realise from today, that its got to stop. and here are the reasons why: hes not breaking up with his girlfriend for me, he still hasnt asked for my number, he still hasnt added me on facebook, he never tried to email me, hes kept this situation a secret for his BENEFIT, hes cheating on his girlfriend of 8 months, hes not asking me out, hes NEVER asked me out, hes not calling me and to top it off, sometimes hes not even that nice to me.
you may think why the heck would she put up with such a douche for so long? i would never do that! well thats what i thought. i cant believe it happened to me. im just glad iv finally seen sense, hopefully enough to get him out my life for good. hes just not worth it, and you know what, if he was, he would make the effort to be with me because like Greg says, we are all so totally worth it.
Erica says:
Mon, 18th Jan 20106:28 pm
I love “He’s Just Not that Into You”. After I read that book, I realized that probably half my relationships would’ve ended sooner & I would’ve saved alot of wasted time if I had just seen that he was just not that into me. And I’ve been alot happier since reading the book and being able to say, “Yeah, we had a great time, but it’s been 4 days and he still hasn’t called, texted, Facebooked, telegrammed, or otherwise contacted me since that night. He’s not that into me. Oh, well–MOVIING ON!”
If it’s not a serious relationship and he doesn’t take you to meet his parents, it’s not a big deal because you have plenty of time for that. But if you’ve been together for several months and he knows you want the relationship to start moving foward (which would include meeting good ol’ mom & dad) and he doesn’t, he’s not into you enough to give you what you need which is the same thing as not being into you at all because who wants to twiddle their thumbs and waste time in an unfulfilling relationship?
If he doesn’t call within 24 hours or maybe even 48, he maybe really busy, but if day 3 is winding down and he still hasn’t bothered to contact you in some way, he’s not into you. If I’m so insignificant in his list of priorities that he can’t pick up a phone, then why should he be significant enough on mine that I should wait around for his call?
If, “Would you like to go back to my place?” is met with, “Nah, I’m kinda tired,” I consider that a pretty bad sign. If the instance is repeated again (assuming he just doesn’t just start avoiding you), he’s completely and totally not into you and you need to realize that and move on.
Some of the “rules” are pretty cut-and-dry, no in-between or lee-way sort of stuff, such as “If he’s not marrying you.” If you don’t want to marry him and he doesn’t want to marry you, that’s not what this is talking about; it’s talking when you want to marry him and he claims to not be the marrying kind. Well, then he’s not YOUR kind, no if, ands, or buts about it.
So, while the book may be a little too harsh and need some work, I agree with most of the things it says because my experience has taught me to.
amanda says:
Mon, 1st Feb 20102:30 am
i agree with lauren univ. of mich. I’m 29 and I’m an attractive single home owner with a good job i support myself and i have zero baggage from past relationships. I’m so availiable its silly already. It seems to me that this book is completely poisoning minds of women looking for relationships…please tell my why I’m still single writer’s of this book. Why are 3 of my friends still single and just as attractive and independant? I understand that this book is supposed to just give it to you cut and dry unlike the hassle of a man trying to ‘break it to you easy’ by not calling, but Laurens right its too black and white…did you ever think that maybe just maybe a lot of guys are just intimidated by women like me and my friends. This book and books like this one imply that single women are doing all the wrong things what about the guy? They’re supposed to be the simple being which does explain the point of this book but what about the guy that didnt call you the next day because he was too nervous he’d made a fool of himself the night before. Or the guy that didn’t introduce you to his parents because his parents are a little excentric and he’s not ready yet. Or what about the guy that wants to be with you for the rest of his life but doesn’t see any reason to be married. There are women out there just like that too. I feel like these books are just excusing what men won’t say the worst part is no woman wants to hear he just doesn’t like you. We immediately resort to the age old question: “What’s wrong with me?” What if a woman is doing all the right things and is gorgeous and self-sufficiant, then what? I don’t think he’s just not into me I think he’s too intimidated by her. Women have been reading too many of these books and now they’re paranoid. How about a book that says, “He’s not that into, unless you’re a great catch and then it’s his problem” or “Stop reading he’s not that into you and just ask him”
weecat says:
Fri, 19th Feb 20107:14 pm
ok, could do with some of this advice! met a guy in a club who i recognised from the bar i work in , i remebered him as most men who come into this bar are 40+. so we got chatting he sweet talked me into giving him my number and when i left him constantly text asking if i liked him or if i had noticed him in the bar blah blah blah, asked what my favorite food was told me he would take me out for dinner blah blah blah…..then i saw him the next night stayed at his flat (told him i wouldnt sleep with him and stuck to it) went home the next morning said he would text, so he texts at half 8 that night “your v.quiet?!” i was rather confused as he was to text me! few more texts then 9pm next night same text “your v.quiet” so everyday he sends these texts but still doesnt ask me out for dinner or any mention of when i will see him, then bumps into him when i’m collecting my wages, asks when i’m working tells him end of convo! doesnt text on valentines day after a week of texting me everyday, so text him the next night “your very quiet” reply “been busy and stuff” so starts getting a bit annoyed doesnt text me back for 2 days then because i dont repl to his 2 texts that night, he texts the next morning “have i said something wrong?!” i reply no just been busy!?” busy doing what?” ” you would know if you asked to see me again” “been a busy boy thats all” well fair enough why dont we leave it for now you can text when your not so busy” “dont be grumpy” “lol i’m not just saying” “well what do you want to do?” “would be nice to see you agian but your busy” then he shows up at my work!(he knew i was working) and waits for me till the end, drop him home after a wee drive have a laugh share a kiss and then he asks when i’ll see him again tell him to let me know when he is free………text him tonight asking what his plans were…….text back late on that night saying phone froze just got texts ………wtf i can not understand this guy, thinking he might have a gf……help! oh he’s 28 journalist for top scottish newspaper, i’m 20 student nurse am i just a shag?
katiemc says:
Sat, 13th Mar 201010:36 am
Weecat,
Yes,you are
Suzanna says:
Fri, 16th Apr 20108:43 am
This book may be useful for any woman who fancies more than, say, one man a year i.e. in order for it to work there would have to be a reasonable pool of men that you find remotely attractive/tolerable. Personally I have only really fancied about ten men in my life. If I had waited for all of these whole ten men to behave like this book said, I would have had no love life! Sadly, I think the book is probably correct. However this leaves me with clear-cut options: 1) go out with men I don’t find remotely attractive just because they like me (yuk!); 2) stay single forever (increasingly likely); 3) enjoy the men I fancy but fully expect them to leave because ‘they weren’t that into me in the first place’ (possible). You takes your choices. But what riles me about this book, true or not, is that ‘Greg’ either believes that there are great swathes of attractive men out there or that women’s desires are irrelevant to the equation. The whole idea frankly puts me off for life.
Clare says:
Thu, 22nd Apr 20102:35 am
Personally, I wish they would write a book called “Girls, Trust your Instincts” because I think, deep down, we all know whether a guy is into us or not, at least after being around him for a little while. I think we actually know which are the guys who “just aren’t that into us” and which guys really like us, we just don’t always want to admit it to ourselves. I think if we listen to our instincts they will tell us which guys to walk away from and which guys require a little gentle encouragement or another chance. That’s not to say that its always easy to follow your instincts because, you know, sometimes you like a guy who isn’t into you and you’re hoping that he is, even though you know deep down that he isn’t. And sometimes you don’t like a guy who is into you. I just personally think that we women probably know more about the way other people feel about us than we give ourselves credit for. And yes defnitely, life is not black and white. People have issues that make things not so clear at times. I try to follow the rule that, if you aren’t sure, rather wait or take it slow until you are.
Clare says:
Thu, 22nd Apr 20102:59 am
Oh yes, and I agree with Mollie – what women should be asking themselves is “Am I into him?” “Do I actually like him? Is he right for me?” We are just as empowered in relationships as men are and shouldn’t settle for guys who aren’t right for us just because we are afraid of being lonely. I have wasted time on guys who were not into me and pined away for them, only to realise later “hey I actually didn’t even like him that much, I just wanted the ego boost of knowing that he wanted me.”
Mandy says:
Sat, 15th May 20109:49 pm
Ive read the book, it does have some good advice..but it is extreme, Im glad I read this blog because I was so ready to just forget about this guy Ive been talking too, he wanted to hang with a friend tonight and has not texted me much today so I was so ready to think he is not into me,but I think im going overboard..reading the book right now would probably make me crazy! I just have to play it cool and let him hang out with his best friend..we are taking it slow which is good but also sucks not knowing what is going to happen..
talkingbookshop says:
Thu, 3rd Jun 20101:27 am
I totally did the SAME thing with the book. Like: “Aha! *slaps forehead How have I been so obtuse?”
But then I had a relationship which did not fit any of the He’s Just Not That Into You criteria even though on the surface it may have seemed to. Example: He kept saying he just wasn’t ready to be serious, but he still kept seeing me in a manner I considered borderline serious. It lasted nine months. He finally broke it off, saying he still didn’t feel ready.
Conclusion? He liked me a whole heck of a lot, he just wasn’t in love.
It happens.
So does that mean he wasn’t that ‘into’ me? No. At least I don’t think so. Not when, even after we broke up, he still calls and tries sincerely to be my friend. Not when he hasn’t started seeing anyone else yet and says he isn’t looking. Not when he gets a little tipsy and says he misses me.
Yeah, its tough. I really like him. But can I measure this man by this book? Or any book on dating? Yeah, like you said. I don’t feel that relationships are that easy – or that black and white.
As for this guy? I’ll wait and see. You never know how things might turn out. Maybe I’ll get over it and meet someone a little more ready to be in a relationship.
Or maybe he’ll come round.
Or he won’t and I will cry and go out and buy a kitten and some books about knitting.
But that’s dating. Messy, isn’t it? At least we are all in it together. :>
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