
Don't run away from me. I'll get you!
I just went on a date with a guy who blathered on about himself (which is only okay when I do it!), and referred to women as, and I kid you not, “dumb bitches.” Since said date last Friday, he has not called me.
And I really, really hope he does.
Look, I like to consider myself an intelligent, rational person. But what I will never get is why a person becomes 10 billion more times appealing to me when they don’t want me. The day after our date, I was actually dreading the dude calling me…I didn’t want to spend a second evening with the most egotistical person since Tucker Max (who he, by the way, actually quoted. Good role model!). But as each day went by and no call came…I suddenly found myself only focusing on his good qualities. He was smart. He was cute. He was funny (maybe he was joking when he said women were dumb bitches…). Why was his unavailability suddenly turning him from nightmare to dreamboat?
I will admit it. It’s because I, like so many women, I am utterly addicted to the chase. While bitching and moaning that I wish guys would be more honest and just tell me what they want (and stop sleeping with my roommate when I’m at home for the weekend), I’m freaking encouraging their crappy behavior. Because it’s exciting, and I don’t know what to expect next. Because if they’re so elusive, it must be worth it… I mean, if they can afford to be so picky, they must give magic orgasms or secretly be the most intelligent person on the planet!
[Picture me yelling the next paragraph, both at you AND myself. I would write it in all caps for full effect, but I don't want to remind any of us of our mothers.]
Guess what. Just because they reject you doesn’t mean they are suddenly more “worth it.” What it means is either a.) they are an indecisive douchebag who will string you along until he finally figures out how to meet his own selfish needs, or b.) they just don’t like you. Most women like to automatically assume option A, and if it helps your sanity to believe he is just a douchebag, then go for it, trash talk away!
But, even though it hurts a bit more…option B is okay too. Part of the reason I fixate on people who reject me is because I hate failure (I cried when I got a B in high school French). If someone rejects me, I suddenly feel the need to prove myself to them…and I’m guessing a lot of women have the same mindset: we may want them, but we want them to want us. But all the “chase” means is that you are spending a heck of a lot of energy trying to catch up to someone who left you in the dust miles ago. And with all the game playing and the jumping through hoops, when are you supposed to actually enjoy the relationship?
So if us women can really claim that we want nice guys, we can’t be focusing all our efforts on the dudes sending mixed signals or no signals at all. Because there are guys out there who will call you three days after a date instead of leaving you in some weird sort of two week limbo.
Don’t make him chase you while you’re chasing someone else…I’m getting exhausted just thinking about it.



Frank says:
Fri, 11th Sep 20094:28 pm
You ladies sure do love douchebags, and this is another fine example why most of the nice guys are skeptics… because underneath it all, most (not all!) women nowadays are even more attracted to the lying, cheating, non-attention paying fucks out there. The bright side is, one day that fascination with jerkoffs will fade… hopefully before, and not after, you marry that asshole.
Ness - Sheridan says:
Fri, 11th Sep 20094:40 pm
I’m totally in a situation like this. Newly single, I found this guy who i thought I could be interested in… turns out i’m not and he’s boarderline creepy. But I don’t want to stop talking to him online because it makes me feel good, I just don’t really want to see him face-to-face.
It’s twisted, I know.
Engineer says:
Fri, 11th Sep 20094:53 pm
Frank, most of them are journalist majors
Dannia- Loyola University Chicago says:
Fri, 11th Sep 20095:15 pm
Honestly, I don’t think I should’ve even made this article gender specific. PEOPLE, guys included, can become completely enthralled by toxic relationships. It’s not like every guy I know exactly goes for the sweet, honest girl…it’s not a gender thing, it’s a human thing.
Erich says:
Fri, 11th Sep 20095:32 pm
Dannia– you are correct.
You dont have to give magic orgasims or be the smartest to be picky. Sometimes us guys arent picky enough and it burns us. I’m picky simply because I think I’m a great guy and until that great woman comes around I’m gonna be picky.
It’s like my uncle awlays said “it better to wait 3 months for a fine woman, then to bang the ugly girl next door. His reason because once you lower your standards its that much easier to keep lowering them.
Alice says:
Sat, 12th Sep 20091:00 am
Hey, I say I like nice guys and my boyfriend is a shining knight.
I do hear it a lot, the stereotype that girls only want bad boys or something, or guys like bitches. And honestly, maybe, but I don’t know anyone personally who likes that. Maybe it’s the people I surround myself with.
Colin says:
Sat, 12th Sep 20091:07 am
What in the fucking hell anal brownie is this talking about. Girls only want the guys who treat them like shit, don’t pay attention to them, and insult them. That is all they want. You fucking girls make me sick you son of a bitch.
Becca- Clarion University says:
Sat, 12th Sep 200912:41 pm
eh… there’s a line. I know plenty of supernice guys, and i dated them and they smothered me….
whereas douchebag boys left me lonely and angry.
I like a line in the middle. a nice guy who is independent, and good to me at the same time. I like being treated well, but I have to have my own interests and own part of my life, especially when it’s dating.
Ken Kendall says:
Sat, 12th Sep 20092:41 pm
You are so right. There really are great men out there. But you have to know what to look for. Check out http://whatsheneedsfromyou.wordpress.com.
Remember, your not looking for a guy. There idiots. Your looking for a real man.
twentysomethingreality says:
Sun, 13th Sep 200912:27 am
I agree with Becca. I would want someone in the middle. The chase is fun, but eventually gets old. I want to chase, then get involved. Not chase, and then get hurt because he never calls me back- ever. Check out http://twentysomethingmeetsreality.wordpress.com/.
TheBritishGuy says:
Mon, 14th Sep 20093:07 am
I read this blog but I’ve never really replied to it because I was here to learn not educate but I feel my experiences may be something worth mentioning here. The timing is even more intereting considering I read an article on manliness only today that has me thinking back to my college days.
I live in Britain but I’ve been to and lived in various places in my life so I’ve always had a fractured culutral background.
I adopted the American version of “manliness”. When I was growing up popular pop culture put guys like Arnold Schwarzenegger on the screen. A man that could barely speak English and had little sense but ran around killing everything in sight and disobeying orders and laws. Rap music was also the biggest thing on the scene back in those days and I don’t have to say much about that.
That was what America gave to me but a funny thing happened when I ended up moving to Britain. Now I didn’t know much about Britain but I did think all the men were a bunch of spineless wussies running around having quiet arguments when they got “cross”.
Britain really opened my mind though. I quickly came to realise there are many other types of “men”. The guys I studied with especially taught me a lot during my college days.
There was this guy I knew called George that was a real tough guy. He used to represent his gym in nation wide boxing tournaments and he was one tough, tough guy. Thing about George was even though he was a tough SOB he was very nice and polite to everybody. He didn’t feel the need to show people he was tough he was confident enough to know he had it.
I ran into many other types of guys too. Raj was a guy that kept to himself and was extremely independant and a free thinker. Tom was the gentleman. Always well dressed and took care of himself expceptionally well. He didn’t act tough but he was well mannered and always had a smile on his face.
Lewis was the adventurer. He took me bungie jumping one day and I nearly passed out. We went to Scotland and he wanted to go into some cave without any supervision. That man was nuts he always wanted to explore something and do something it was never enough for him to slow down and take things one day at a time he always wanted to take risks and defined free spirit.
My closest friend though was Abdul. Now Abdul was a strange friend for me to have because I’d never come across anybody like him before. He was full of pride and extremely proud. He had principles and was extremely driven and idealistic. I never thought a guy that was as “stately” if you will as Abdul would be such a leader but he commanded respect and called the shots. He didn’t have to slam his fist down he just had the kind of presence that would command your attention.
Now here I am with my one dimensional way of thinking and I am surrounded by guys that are a joy to be around, that are great but have tons of charater and are every bit as manly as me or anybody else.
The point I am trying to make is different parts of the world guys have a different mentality. I would have never shook my tough guy/asshole attitude if I didn’t move. I look back at it now and think it was so silly.
Why wouldn’t you have a positive attitude. You can be responsible, self sufficient, free thinking, adventurous, polite, hard working, courageous and so many other things that make you a man.
Just because you leave roses random places in your girlfriends apartment or surprise her after work doesn’t mean your a wussie or any less manly in fact you should do those kind of things.
On the other hand there isn’t anything wrong with pinning your woman against the wall and making her 20 minutes late to work or misbehaving in a changing room. I mean a lot of it is about impulse too.
I know longest rant ever but not all is black and white. Having principles and being nice and polite doesn’t make you a wuss. On the other hand nobody needs a needy guy who can’t stand on his two feet. Character is what makes a man and even a flawed character is better than a spineless wuss.
Grow a pair and do what you want but just treat the people that cross your path in the way you want to be treated.
Justin says:
Mon, 14th Sep 20094:00 am
all the girls who were head over heels for me, I ignored or payed no attention to.
all the girls I wanted that wanted me that I pursued lost interest.
why must you females be so complicated
Justin says:
Mon, 14th Sep 20094:00 am
*paid
Frank says:
Mon, 14th Sep 20092:16 pm
Excellent comment, TBG!
k says:
Mon, 14th Sep 20094:48 pm
…i wanna move to Britain
thanks
Stuey Griffin says:
Mon, 14th Sep 20096:47 pm
IF THATS YOU IN THE PIC I’M NOT RUNNING!!!!
gearkat says:
Mon, 14th Sep 20099:24 pm
Go Asian – Asian woman are exactly what they appear to be…or they are so skilled at covering what they are actually like it doesn’t matter.
White woman (especially American) – sorry girls you are not a princess. You are not special despite what daddy may have rammed down your throat. Yea yea, not all girls are like this I know – but enough of them are to cause many of us guys to appreciate other worlds.
Dafra says:
Wed, 16th Sep 20093:03 am
Very very long rant, tbg, but useful , pertinent and insightful info. Thanks.
Ty says:
Wed, 16th Sep 200911:34 am
The whole chasing bad boys and ignoring nice ones is living by ego and not being familiar with what you truly want. The nice guy seemed smothering because after you had him you lost interest and it showed to him, you became the bad girl. In such a state of being, seeing someone that is “real” is out of the question because they would not stand for all the games and tests that are part of an ego based relationship.
anthonyarines says:
Wed, 16th Sep 20095:22 pm
All of you are morons.
nico says:
Wed, 16th Sep 20097:58 pm
I think we should be free to be more than one person, in a sense. A guy can be sensitive and warm during a date, like dinner or a romantic walk. But later, the same guy can be aggressive and wild in the bedroom. Maybe the “nice guy” is unattractive because he is “nice” at the wrong time. In my case, I never had a single date in college. Now I’m in grad school, and girls who never gave me the time of day in college flirt with me. I have the same personality, but I changed my appearance to reflect my “bad boy” side: I shaved my head, started wearing more “regular guy” clothes instead of Macy’s or Abercrombie stuff, and I found I could be polite and honest while still presenting a more masculine “tough guy” image to girls who like that. I’m not saying I’ve become a real ladies’ man, but sometime “nice guy” doesn’t really mean “nice,” It could mean misunderstood.
Ashley says:
Thu, 17th Sep 20092:27 am
Nico- Please stop lying. You didn’t get dates during college, but now in grad school, girls are suddenly flirting with you??? Stop the bullshit dumbfuck. You look like shit and girls hate you, you fucking piece of shit. Get a real nane jackass.
Ashley says:
Thu, 17th Sep 20092:28 am
*name. I can’t even type correctly I am so mad. You are so full of shit you stupid motherfucker.
Sj says:
Thu, 17th Sep 20097:29 am
Well,
I think the term nice guy boils down to men being overly nice. Look at it like this, becoming a real asshole is not the key here. Neither is being a really nice guy, the point here is that don’t do anything the girl wouldn’t do for you. Don’t smother her and sometimes back off a little. Women love men who can live without them, play Xbox, go for a walk, go to work just do something that keeps a bit of distance.
Jerks don’t need to be attractive at all, but it’s a matter of stand our own ground, be a man and if a girl treats us wrong we should let her know. Don’t put up with crap from anyone and that’s with hot girls included too.
Treat a woman nicely when she deserve it. overly nice guys who shower them with attention in the beginning can seem creepy.
Jennifer says:
Fri, 18th Sep 20095:10 am
SJ: Fuck off fuckhead!!!!! Post a picture of yourself to back up your claims of being such hot shit with girls. You are so full of shit it makes me sick reading your chicken shit bullshit motherfucker. Keep your mouth shut shithead until you actually get attractive and don’t resemble a monster. Stupid ass son of a bitch.
michelle says:
Fri, 18th Sep 20098:50 am
lmao wow Ashely and Jennifer… grow up.
I was having a discussion about this with one of my friends. my ex considered himself a ‘nice’ guy, turns out he was both horribly insecure about our relationship and controlling. and he would always pull the “….but i love you” card. sickening. bad boys have more appeal because they appear to be more independent, and more carefree( if that makes sense). i think most girls dont want a real ‘bad boy’ like an ex con, but i think that extra edge of confidence they have makes them so much more appealing.
some chick says:
Sat, 19th Sep 20094:59 pm
If this article is any sort of accurate representation of the female gender, then this dude is right: women are dumb bitches. If you really see something good in a total douchebag, is he not right in calling you dumb?
Jeremy says:
Sun, 20th Sep 200911:50 am
Hahahaha. I appreciate the writers honesty and she might be a bitch, but she is definitely not dumb. If women actually did what she is suggesting, they would be a lot better off. The problem is that they cannot bring themselves to do it. The number one reason – lack of trust among themselves.
Because of this, there is an overwhelming push for guys to treat women like the cock-whores that they are.
Vee says:
Tue, 22nd Sep 20093:39 pm
“Go Asian – Asian woman are exactly what they appear to be…or they are so skilled at covering what they are actually like it doesn’t matter.”
Ew, creep. Asian women already have enough jerks to deal with who yell “KONICHIWA!” at them on the street. Don’t generalize, and don’t act like you can “choose” from among the races of women as though we were some type of candy. “American” women probably don’t like you not because they act like “princesses,” but because you’re just a creep.
oneclearmessage says:
Fri, 25th Sep 20094:57 pm
Ha ha .. this is an age old question.
A lot of the attraction to the ones not keen on you has to do with feeling unworthy (in yourself) – ie low self-esteem, then feeling somehow if you can get the one who rejected you to want you, though you don’t want him, you’ll be ok.
Many things we do have to do with wanting to be ok. To wanting others to approve of us and wanting someone to boost our flagging image of ourselves.
changing perspective can help. Try not have it mean that it is a popularity contest and if EVERYONE does not like you there is a problem with you. Really there is a major problem IF everyone does like you. It means you are rather generic and have no unique aspects, ie are just being cardboard. Be real, be you and people will either like you or not. If you like yourself it is far easier to find someone you respect who can like you too.
Crys says:
Mon, 28th Sep 20093:20 pm
TheBritishGuy… so, um, are you single? LoL…
The only reason why women are attracted to assholes and men are attracted to bitches is because said assholes and bitches seem to have all of the attributes that one looks for in a mate. In other words, they are probably hot. Which is probably why they are assholes and bitches in the first place… they have their pick and sometimes, even unintentionally, hurt people (obviously there are exceptions). That’s it in a nutshell. It doesn’t have to do with women “liking” the abuse or the chase, but it’s women (or men) wanting their physically (or financially/socially) ideal mate and having this unrealistic hope that this desirable person will come around emotionally. Or, that (especially in the case of nurturing, loving, self-sacrificing women) they think they can change the individual’s personality. No one really likes to feel like crap. Sometimes people just hold onto hope a little longer than they should.
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