We’ve All Been There: The Group Project

group project

"Ok, so I'll do all the work and you'll take all the credit. Sound good?"

Your midterm is assigned and not only is it a group project, but you can’t even choose who you’ll work with. Your T.A. reads off your group of four then gives you the last half of the class to discuss your ideas. You pull your desks together in a mini circle and start the introductions.

It only takes you five minutes to realize that this group is not going to work.  Between the kid who’s only showed up to class twice and the girl who speaks maybe three words of English, it’s going to be a disaster.

With only two weeks to complete both a four-page paper and a 5-minute presentation, you need to get to work quickly. The group spends ten minutes coming up with a topic and the next twenty trying to find a time to meet that works for all of you. Unsuccessfully. One kid holds an on-campus job at the library, one girl is heading out of town for the weekend and you all have 3 other midterms that you need to somehow complete.

The rest of the class starts packing up and – seeing a giant D in your near future – you decide to take charge.

“Ok, we’re going to break up the work. We’ll each take a portion of the paper and we’ll put it together at the end. Then we’ll use class time next week to write up our presentation. Good?”

The group agrees – most likely because they don’t want to spend another second in this classroom. You get everyone’s email address, divvy up the sections of the essay and go on your way.

You do your research and whip up your part of the essay the night before the next class. Only when you show up you learn you’re the only one with anything done. The boy doesn’t even bother to come, one girl was too busy to get her part done and the girl with the language barrier? You’re not even sure she understood the assignment.

You freak out. You only have a week left and half of today’s class to get the project done. While the T.A. drones on about that week’s reading assignment you zone out, thinking about your grade. “WTF? How is it fair that my grade depends on the other people in this group? I’m gonna have to do all the work myself. And then they’ll get my A? Ugh. But what else would I do? Let them ruin my GPA? I’m not gonna get a bad grade in a class this easy.”

Finally, she stops talking and you’re given the rest of the class to work with your group. Unable to count on anyone to get anything done out of class, you decide to use the time to write a script for the presentation. You’ll just do the paper on your own later. Do you want to? No. Do you have the time? Barely.

Do you trust these idiots to do anything worthy of your academic standards? Yeah right.

Thirty minutes is not nearly enough time to finish your presentation so you try once again to find a time to meet out of class. And, again, it’s a big fat fail. So, again, you offer to collect everything via email and send out a final document before the big presentation next week.

You spend your entire weekend writing the paper, sending passive-aggressive emails to the group to get their stuff to you, taking the crap they wrote and turning it into something worthy of a passing grade and complaining to your roommates. Then you put it all into a Power Point with some fun clip art (Clip Art makes everything look better) and beg everyone to meet you 10 minutes before class to go over the plan.

When everyone finally shows up – even MIA Boy – you explain everyone’s parts to them. You run through it once then, of course, get called on first to present. You turn in your paper to the T.A., take your place with your group and pray everyone in your group knows how to read aloud.

The presentation goes well (obviously – you did the entire thing) and a week later you learn your group has earned an A. All four of you.

Yeah, we’ve all been there.
Why anyone is still assigning group projects in college is beyond us too.

19 Comments on "We’ve All Been There: The Group Project"

  1. kirsten says:
    Tue, 10th Nov 200912:00 pm 

    Im shy, and I HATE being the leader, but everytime I have been in a group I feel like Im the only one to take charge (minus one philosophy group… those guys were great!) Group projects should be banned.

  2. Kate says:
    Tue, 10th Nov 200912:04 pm 

    4 pages and 5 minute presentation? I know this is semi-hypothetical situation, but that is not nearly worth the effort to complain about it. Try working on a team throughout the semester with 4 or 5 deliverables including a 30 page paper and 20 minute presentation. In a group that includes several varsity athletes at a Division I school that is also ranked among the top 20 universities, no less. Although I know that may be hard to imagine at Michigan where the only thing athletes seem to major in there is kinesiology…

  3. Lauren - University of Michigan says:
    Tue, 10th Nov 200912:07 pm 

    Really, Kate? Really? Did you have to go and bash my school? Congrats on having a harder project than me. You want a cookie or a medal?

  4. Kathryn - Georgia Tech says:
    Tue, 10th Nov 200912:32 pm 

    Yeah, group projects suck, but the work environment these days is a team setting. Most companies expect you to be able to work well with a team, especially if you’re in anything close to politics or advertising. And isn’t college supposed to prepare you for the work world? If you think there aren’t going to be those exact same people free-loading off of you in the workforce then you’re gravely mistaken. The whole point of these is to learn how to work with those people, so doing it yourself is defeating the whole purpose. I’m not saying they don’t blow and this isn’t the feeling of a lot of people in groups, I’m just saying that there’s a reason for them.

  5. Nina says:
    Tue, 10th Nov 200912:35 pm 

    Kate: why can’t you just read this blog and laugh at it and get over yourself? Why do you always have to start a fight? And why don’t you go back to your 30 page paper and 20 min presentation group project that you’ve been doing with several varsity athletes at your Division I school that is also ranked among the top 20 universities instead of trying to bash other schools via comments? You are so lame.

  6. Leese says:
    Tue, 10th Nov 200912:40 pm 

    I just got assigned a group project for an online class. I have no idea how this is going to work and I’m freaking out!

  7. Erin says:
    Tue, 10th Nov 200912:54 pm 

    While i agree that the group project prepares you for the real world, unlike the real world you have people who don’t want to be in that class and don’t give a shit if they pull you down with them. IN the real world you and your group members will be working together on some thing that is more often than not a shared interest, ie working together at a certain company because you want to be there. And unlike school if someone does not perform well or work with the group you can tell the project manager and if it’s the manger you go to the person above them. Most companies want that feed back because they don’t want to waste money on someone who sucks. That loser will get fired or get a warning then the company will bring in someone better who wants to be there, which is the difference I noted most between school and a real job. So really I don’t feel this helps you in the real world, it just makes you hate people and leery of projects where you rely on others.

  8. Lola says:
    Tue, 10th Nov 20091:02 pm 

    I hate group projects. This semester I have a class that we have to be in groups and our grade depends in part on how the group does on the various tests we have throughout the semester. Eek.

  9. Laurel says:
    Tue, 10th Nov 20091:04 pm 

    Hahaha this article is SO. TRUE! Ugh, I hate group projects.

  10. nikki says:
    Tue, 10th Nov 20091:16 pm 

    This is SO SO SO true. I am only in the First Sem and I have have all types of pathetic experiences on this front.

    I think group projects are to benefit the underdogs maybe. And they, well … they are simply too smart. They just know from the very beginning that “that” girl/guy will do the project and the presentation … because … well, because he will not want to ruin his GPA.

    I’ll tell you a funny (to others), blood boiling (to me) experience out of ALL my experiences with the whole group project ‘burden’.
    Here it goes :
    I have ALL guys in my group. No, not the smart ones. The one with no idea about what is going on – who just can’t write a line in his words, the guy who just doesn’t care x 3. Well, that made the 5 of us.

    So, I spend my entire 6 days off post mid sem on the project, the presentation is made by copying and pasting my report [which I edit or rather "re-do"].

    At the time of the actual presentation + viva. There is the “doesnt-care-AT-ALL” guy … he really doesn’t care. And how do you know that ? Well, he simply hasn’t even READ his part of the ppt!!! So, much so that he read E.g. (for example) as E.G. !

    Result: He gets same marks as me.

    Annoying ?

    Beyond words.

  11. Casey says:
    Tue, 10th Nov 20091:36 pm 

    OMG I totally relate to this. I have NEVER had a group project where I didn’t do all the work myself (group projects are just one more reason I seriously despise people. Yeah I’m bitter).

    The worst though was an online class group assignment for our final project. The professor assigned us teams of two and I immediately e-mailed my partner with a plan to divide up the work, she e-mailed me back about a week later saying that my plan wouldn’t work because she had limited access to a computer (although she was taking an ONLINE class!) and that I needed to come up with something else. I e-mailed her and told her that dividing the work equally was the only fair way and I never got a response back. The day before our key points were due I still hadn’t heard from her so I went ahead and did them myself and e-mailed them to her and the teacher putting both of our names on it. She e-mailed me the next day and told me that she had done her own and sent them to the teacher with ONLY her name saying she didn’t think I was going to do anything (Really?! She was the one who never responded to my e-mail and made no attempt to work together!) I replied with my phone number, e-mail, and aim and times she could reach me. Another week went by with no word from her and so I sent her another e-mail saying we only had a week left and we really needed to get moving on this. What I got in reply was an angry e-mail saying, “YOU were the one who wouldn’t divide up the work! YOU were the one who didn’t send me anything until a couple hours before our key points were due! YOU are the one who hasn’t done anything and is waiting until the last minute and I don’t wait till the last minute to do things because anything can happen when you wait till the last minute. I am done with MY paper and almost done with MY power point and YOU haven’t done anything and YOU only have a week left.”

    I e-mailed the professor that very moment with all of the e-mails we had sent back and forth attached explaining that my partner refused to communicate with me and so we were both doing solo projects and apologized for the mess and confusion. In return I got to do a 5 page paper and 5 minute power point for full credit and she still had to do the entire thing. And when we turned them in (the professor gave public grades and feedback so the class could see where they stood) mine got a 100 and tons of praise, she got a C and was told she should have taken advantage of working with a partner.

    I understand the reasoning for group projects, but honestly, they don’t work, they have never worked for any group I have been in. However, a lot of group assignments that I have done the professor hands out an evaluation sheet to each member of the group and we have to individually evaluate each group members participation in the project so everyone gets the grade they deserved and no one is stuck having to cover someone elses part.

  12. Casey says:
    Tue, 10th Nov 20091:54 pm 

    Oh and to Kate, since you’re comparing yourself to Lauren and all, I’m sure she is probably smarter than you despite where she went to school, we already know her writing skills are better, not to mention her sense of humor, oh, and the most obvious difference, she actually knows how to treat people.

    Seriously, get over yourself, and here’s a tip, when you “brag” and put others down all at the same time it makes you sound like an arrogant bitch and no one takes arrogant bitches seriously.

  13. Erin says:
    Tue, 10th Nov 20092:30 pm 

    Casey it’s like the “backhanded complement” only in reverse. It’s never cool and it’s very telling of a persons attitude, which is obviously poor.

  14. Kate says:
    Tue, 10th Nov 20097:57 pm 

    First of all, Lauren, I was only making a point that such a small project is not even worth taking the effort to write this piece about. I’m just trying to make a suggestion so that your articles are slightly more realistic considering the theme is “We’ve All Been There” when it’s probably safe to say that the typical college student wouldn’t bother to whine about such a menial task and therefore hasn’t “been there.” However, I do apologize for the Michigan comment.

    Secondly, Nina, although I read CC everyday, this is my first comment ever. As such, I don’t know why you feel the need to jump down my throat saying that I’m always starting fights when I’ve never posted anything before. Perhaps you have me confused with another Kate?

    And finally, Casey, I don’t know who died and made you the queen bee of this board but do you honestly feel that it is necessary to post on every single article on this website? And pot calling the kettle black here, since most of your comments are derogatory with you being the “arrogant bitch” who brags about her perfect friends/boyfriend/life. Heaven forbid a female college student have sex or simply take a few shots and post about it on CC or else Casey will be there with a comment judging you. Seriously, get a life. It’s pathetic.

  15. Casey says:
    Wed, 11th Nov 200912:31 am 

    Actually, most of my comments are not derogatory, argumentative yes, but I only make derogatory comments when someone is being needlessly rude. If you can dish it you should be able to take it. And I’m not sure whose comments you’ve been reading, because I certainly have never talked about having a perfect life OR perfect friends, a perfect boyfriend, yes, but he actually is something to brag about. Oh, and I don’t put others down while playing myself up, so yeah, not an arrogant bitch.

    Also, I don’t judge people, again, not sure whose comments you’ve been reading, but I definitely have sex and take shots.

    And I’m pretty sure about a million other people have made the exact same remark about how much I comment, in fact, I think you probably just copied and pasted that entire sentence. But yes, if I read an article and a thought strikes me then I’m going to post it and I’m a pretty analytical person, so more often than not I have thoughts on just about everything I read, pick up any one of my books and the margins are full of thoughts, comments, and questions. So sorry, it’s just how I work. But if they bother you that much you can just ignore them.

    And sorry about my comment. I just thought what you said to Lauren was pretty fucked up. And for the record, I don’t think a 4 page 5 minute group project is a petty thing to whine about, and it is probably more realistic and covers a wider audience than a larger project would, because I’m guessing more people have had smaller group projects rather than larger ones. And I’m sure everyone else would agree that any assignment where even a small part of your grade can be effected by a fellow student is shitty. But that’s really beside the point since the article wasn’t even about the project Lauren mentioned, but the SITUATION revolving around assignments of the like, so it’s actually rather trivial to call out how menial a hypothetical project is when it’s simply a offset of the article and not the main point.

  16. Lauren - University of Michigan says:
    Wed, 11th Nov 200912:18 pm 

    It doesn’t matter how big or small the group project is – it’s annoying. And I was using this particular experience for comparison only.

    Honestly, even 4 pages and 5 minutes in front of the class (when given less than 2 weeks to do it) is worth writing about. You try writing a psych essay when you have to basically take one girl’s work and put it into a google translator.

  17. Erica says:
    Sat, 14th Nov 20099:44 pm 

    Bitch, please. I don’t care who’s in your group, two weeks to complete that little work is more than enough time to do it yourself.

    You wouldn’t last a day on the Colorado College Block Plan.

  18. Steven says:
    Mon, 16th Nov 20096:01 pm 

    Wake up a little college candy. Group work is critical for success in the real world. Sure it’s tough sometimes but it’s the same deal at work.

    What erin says is true.

    oh and kate as for the length, I’ve had a class that is done completely in groups and has project that was 45 pages with a 20 minute presentation. can i get a medal? and i don’t go to such a prestigious school as you. oh wait i do, so can i get another medal? oh and did i mention the time the 45 page paper was due i also had two midterms (accounting, econ) and a 10 page paper in spanish analyzing a poem. one poem. and i’m not a native speaker. Can i have another medal please. Oh and did i forget to mention that i had to organize a fundraiser for 500 people? another medal por favor.

  19. JohnE says:
    Tue, 17th Nov 200910:10 am 

    Your problem was you didn’t just doo all of the work from the start. My last group project It was two slackers an over-achiever and me. We had to do a ten minutes presentation on a candidates econimic policy followed by a short Q & A. I blew off the first two project meetings and when I went to the third the overachiever was whining that it wasn’t fair, we wouldn’t be prepared and he was goign to ask the professor to assign him to a different group. I told him to shut then proceeded to dictate the the first seven minutes of the presentation. I told him I would wing it for the last three minutes. I wrote the paper and all four of us got a 96. Two points off because I went 30 seconds over on the speech and two point soff because of a missing citation on a graph I created using a calculation I found in an article. Group projects suck. Just expect to do all of the work yourself and don’t worry about anybody else and you will be fine.

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