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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, btw, Emily.  We train new people on slow nights, so that you get your drink in five minutes on the busy ones.  Everybody is new at a job at some point in their life, it takes practice and experience to be fast.  Give us a break, we weren&#039;t born knowing how to pour drinks. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, btw, Emily.  We train new people on slow nights, so that you get your drink in five minutes on the busy ones.  Everybody is new at a job at some point in their life, it takes practice and experience to be fast.  Give us a break, we weren&#039;t born knowing how to pour drinks.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Craiggers is right.  Want good service?  Be known in the bar, and not for being an obnoxious b****.  We are human also, and we do remember the good customers.  Treat us like you want to be treated.  We&#039;ll notice, and you&#039;ll get the good service.   
 
Tips are nice, tips are what pays the bills, but you don&#039;t have to throw money around.  However, if you can&#039;t afford to tip, you should buy a sixpack and go watch TV.  Money for tipping is just as important as money for the drinks. 
 
Most college girls don&#039;t tip worth a s***.  I&#039;ve been made in more than one bar just by tipping the girls working the floor.  &quot;You work in a bar?&quot; 
 
And girls can be so-o-o catty.  Honey, I heard you when you told your BF I look like a slut.  I dress the way I do because a) it&#039;s a job requirement, and/or b) I want tips.  Most of us wear outfits we wouldn&#039;t be caught dead in otherwise; but the drunk guy you&#039;re with is slipping me ten dollar tips when you aren&#039;t looking, just for occasional peeks down my blouse.  I work damn hard for my money, but I don&#039;t pay the bills if I don&#039;t get the tips. 
 
One other thing.  Many states require that at closing time there be nobody left in a bar except employees.  The police can and will arrest us for afterhours operation if you aren&#039;t gone at closing time.  So we turn on the lights to encourage you to haul your pretty little butt out the door so I don&#039;t have to explain my arrest record when applying for a job. 
 
Walk a mile or two in my heels, then rewrite this! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craiggers is right.  Want good service?  Be known in the bar, and not for being an obnoxious b****.  We are human also, and we do remember the good customers.  Treat us like you want to be treated.  We&#039;ll notice, and you&#039;ll get the good service.  </p>
<p>Tips are nice, tips are what pays the bills, but you don&#039;t have to throw money around.  However, if you can&#039;t afford to tip, you should buy a sixpack and go watch TV.  Money for tipping is just as important as money for the drinks.</p>
<p>Most college girls don&#039;t tip worth a s***.  I&#039;ve been made in more than one bar just by tipping the girls working the floor.  &quot;You work in a bar?&quot;</p>
<p>And girls can be so-o-o catty.  Honey, I heard you when you told your BF I look like a slut.  I dress the way I do because a) it&#039;s a job requirement, and/or b) I want tips.  Most of us wear outfits we wouldn&#039;t be caught dead in otherwise; but the drunk guy you&#039;re with is slipping me ten dollar tips when you aren&#039;t looking, just for occasional peeks down my blouse.  I work damn hard for my money, but I don&#039;t pay the bills if I don&#039;t get the tips.</p>
<p>One other thing.  Many states require that at closing time there be nobody left in a bar except employees.  The police can and will arrest us for afterhours operation if you aren&#039;t gone at closing time.  So we turn on the lights to encourage you to haul your pretty little butt out the door so I don&#039;t have to explain my arrest record when applying for a job.</p>
<p>Walk a mile or two in my heels, then rewrite this!</p>
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		<title>By: Casey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Casey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 14:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joepa, and Craiggers have it right. Sometimes you have to take a step back and really LOOK at the situation, before you start complaining about it. Bartenders are in the service industry, same as retail employees, the things that you people complain to us about are seriously ridiculous, and things that we often have absolutely no control over. The bathroom is ALWAYS an issue, for everybody. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joepa, and Craiggers have it right. Sometimes you have to take a step back and really LOOK at the situation, before you start complaining about it. Bartenders are in the service industry, same as retail employees, the things that you people complain to us about are seriously ridiculous, and things that we often have absolutely no control over. The bathroom is ALWAYS an issue, for everybody.</p>
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		<title>By: Jess</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jess]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know this is super late (I just discovered this site, so I&#039;ve got some lurking to do) but regarding those bathrooms:  
The number one thing that irks me about bar washrooms is the &quot;restroom attendant&quot;, the person who stands there and stares you down while you try to fix your face. Up here in Alberta, it&#039;s commonplace for the bars to disable the soap dispensers, so that you have to BUY your soap from an attendant.  
I&#039;m failing to see how that&#039;s legal. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this is super late (I just discovered this site, so I&#039;ve got some lurking to do) but regarding those bathrooms: </p>
<p>The number one thing that irks me about bar washrooms is the &quot;restroom attendant&quot;, the person who stands there and stares you down while you try to fix your face. Up here in Alberta, it&#039;s commonplace for the bars to disable the soap dispensers, so that you have to BUY your soap from an attendant. </p>
<p>I&#039;m failing to see how that&#039;s legal.</p>
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		<title>By: sauer kraut</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From what I understand, the PSU bars regularly get into trouble for skimping on the alcohol. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I understand, the PSU bars regularly get into trouble for skimping on the alcohol.</p>
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		<title>By: Craiggers</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Craiggers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 18:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The view from a bartender:

1) If the bathrooms are shitty at 9:30, that&#039;s the patrons fault, not the bartenders. You&#039;re right, it&#039;s unacceptable to have a bathroom in that condition, but do you think that the bartenders are any more excited about that fact then you? If anything, we hate it more, because we&#039;re the ones who have to scrub up your drunk messes at 9:30 at night AND at 2 in the morning, so be a doll, and don&#039;t ruin are bathrooms in the first place, problem solved. Bathrooms are the LEAST of my priorities when I&#039;m stacked 3 deep at the bar, getting people drinks is the first, see your other complaints.

2) Watered down drinks. I know college bars are notorious for being &#039;heavy on the mixer,&#039; but what you have to understand is that the amount of alcohol that can be served in any drink is actually regulated by law in most states. Now, that being said, there&#039;s plenty of ways to get a bartender to spice your drink up a bit. Flirting? Kissy faces? Loudly complaining? Nope. TIPS. I&#039;m not interested in you, and I&#039;m certainly not interested in your views on how much I&#039;m charging for drinks, I&#039;m interested in walking out the bar with AT LEAST having made minnimum wage off you poor a** college kids since my base pay is #3 an hour. I&#039;ll pour heavy all day long for someone who tips well, and the poster who said &#039;vodka with a splash of cranberry&#039; is right, that would get a stronger drink, sometimes at no extra cost.

3) The reason I turn the lights on 15 minutes before the bar closes is because I&#039;m still going to be awake for another 2 hours cleaning up the drunken debauchery that you say fit to visit upon my establishment. I don&#039;t really care if you get laid or not, I care about getting to bed before 4 am. Trust me, if you need those last 10-15 minutes to get some that night, then I&#039;m doing you a favor by preventing you from being a bottom feeder. If anything, the lights on are a great cue that it&#039;s a good time to suggest somewhere else you should go (Like your bedroom) without the added romance of a bouncer pushing you out the door, which is what would happen when ACTUAL bar close time turns around.

All in all, a good article, and as a College kid myself, I agree, especially with the parts about lines, slow bartenders, etc, trust me, I hate dumb bimbos behind my bar who are only there because they&#039;ve got a great rack more then anyone (Mostly because being a dude, I&#039;m already disadvantaged at getting a job/tips as compared to a pretty girl, and I have to work my a** off and be extremely intelligent about bartending in order to be on par with some broad who just walked in off the street and laid her jugs on the bar).

Want to know how to make your bar experience better?

1-Drink within your means. I work at a very nice, very expensive cocktail lounge right now. If you want a $1 shot, then go down the street to the bar that only serves plastic cups, if you only want to spend $1 on a drink, you should never have been in my bar anyway. Hey, I don&#039;t make a ton of money either, but it&#039;s not the bar&#039;s fault I&#039;m poor. When I&#039;ve got funds, I drink classy and heavy, when I don&#039;t, I drink shitty and cheap. Don&#039;t try to be what you&#039;re not. 

2- THAT BEING SAID, tips are more magical then you&#039;ll ever realize. Even being a patron, I&#039;ve garnered myself several free drinks over the course of the night, and especially heavy drinks as well, simply by tipping well. Here&#039;s how to do it: Don&#039;t make a show of it, especially for that dumb sorostitute you&#039;re trying to hit on. She has daddy&#039;s visa, you really think she cares that you can tip $3 for a $5 round? I appreciate it, but just leave it on the bar and accept my thanks. Don&#039;t over-tip, it&#039;s frankly embarassing. One of the best ways to do that is to tip huge up front. If you know you&#039;re going to be there for awhile, the first time you&#039;re at the bar, find a bartender who makes good drinks and you like, get your drinks from them, then leave a $20 or a $50 on the bar and say &quot;I&#039;m coming back to you all night!&quot; and we won&#039;t expect you to tip anymore (Unless you drink a F*k ton or are an a*s) as well as give you better service and priority in the bar line. 

I could go on for days, but just another perspective for you. You want better service? Gotta pay for it. Can&#039;t afford it? Not my problem, go buy some Old Milwaukee from the truck stop and go back to your dorm.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The view from a bartender:</p>
<p>1) If the bathrooms are shitty at 9:30, that&#8217;s the patrons fault, not the bartenders. You&#8217;re right, it&#8217;s unacceptable to have a bathroom in that condition, but do you think that the bartenders are any more excited about that fact then you? If anything, we hate it more, because we&#8217;re the ones who have to scrub up your drunk messes at 9:30 at night AND at 2 in the morning, so be a doll, and don&#8217;t ruin are bathrooms in the first place, problem solved. Bathrooms are the LEAST of my priorities when I&#8217;m stacked 3 deep at the bar, getting people drinks is the first, see your other complaints.</p>
<p>2) Watered down drinks. I know college bars are notorious for being &#8216;heavy on the mixer,&#8217; but what you have to understand is that the amount of alcohol that can be served in any drink is actually regulated by law in most states. Now, that being said, there&#8217;s plenty of ways to get a bartender to spice your drink up a bit. Flirting? Kissy faces? Loudly complaining? Nope. TIPS. I&#8217;m not interested in you, and I&#8217;m certainly not interested in your views on how much I&#8217;m charging for drinks, I&#8217;m interested in walking out the bar with AT LEAST having made minnimum wage off you poor a** college kids since my base pay is #3 an hour. I&#8217;ll pour heavy all day long for someone who tips well, and the poster who said &#8216;vodka with a splash of cranberry&#8217; is right, that would get a stronger drink, sometimes at no extra cost.</p>
<p>3) The reason I turn the lights on 15 minutes before the bar closes is because I&#8217;m still going to be awake for another 2 hours cleaning up the drunken debauchery that you say fit to visit upon my establishment. I don&#8217;t really care if you get laid or not, I care about getting to bed before 4 am. Trust me, if you need those last 10-15 minutes to get some that night, then I&#8217;m doing you a favor by preventing you from being a bottom feeder. If anything, the lights on are a great cue that it&#8217;s a good time to suggest somewhere else you should go (Like your bedroom) without the added romance of a bouncer pushing you out the door, which is what would happen when ACTUAL bar close time turns around.</p>
<p>All in all, a good article, and as a College kid myself, I agree, especially with the parts about lines, slow bartenders, etc, trust me, I hate dumb bimbos behind my bar who are only there because they&#8217;ve got a great rack more then anyone (Mostly because being a dude, I&#8217;m already disadvantaged at getting a job/tips as compared to a pretty girl, and I have to work my a** off and be extremely intelligent about bartending in order to be on par with some broad who just walked in off the street and laid her jugs on the bar).</p>
<p>Want to know how to make your bar experience better?</p>
<p>1-Drink within your means. I work at a very nice, very expensive cocktail lounge right now. If you want a $1 shot, then go down the street to the bar that only serves plastic cups, if you only want to spend $1 on a drink, you should never have been in my bar anyway. Hey, I don&#8217;t make a ton of money either, but it&#8217;s not the bar&#8217;s fault I&#8217;m poor. When I&#8217;ve got funds, I drink classy and heavy, when I don&#8217;t, I drink shitty and cheap. Don&#8217;t try to be what you&#8217;re not. </p>
<p>2- THAT BEING SAID, tips are more magical then you&#8217;ll ever realize. Even being a patron, I&#8217;ve garnered myself several free drinks over the course of the night, and especially heavy drinks as well, simply by tipping well. Here&#8217;s how to do it: Don&#8217;t make a show of it, especially for that dumb sorostitute you&#8217;re trying to hit on. She has daddy&#8217;s visa, you really think she cares that you can tip $3 for a $5 round? I appreciate it, but just leave it on the bar and accept my thanks. Don&#8217;t over-tip, it&#8217;s frankly embarassing. One of the best ways to do that is to tip huge up front. If you know you&#8217;re going to be there for awhile, the first time you&#8217;re at the bar, find a bartender who makes good drinks and you like, get your drinks from them, then leave a $20 or a $50 on the bar and say &#8220;I&#8217;m coming back to you all night!&#8221; and we won&#8217;t expect you to tip anymore (Unless you drink a F*k ton or are an a*s) as well as give you better service and priority in the bar line. </p>
<p>I could go on for days, but just another perspective for you. You want better service? Gotta pay for it. Can&#8217;t afford it? Not my problem, go buy some Old Milwaukee from the truck stop and go back to your dorm.</p>
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		<title>By: JoePa</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JoePa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 03:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with you on pretty much all your points, but you&#039;re thinking as the customer who probably isn&#039;t even tipping.  Bars are busy, and often understaffed for the amount of college kids coming through demanding six LIT&#039;s at a time.  Bathrooms are gross, but that doesn&#039;t mean anyone has time to run out and clean your drunk friends&#039; vomit in the middle of peak times. Besides, if someone did go and do that, you&#039;d be waiting in that line for your drink even longer. 
 
Oh, and a bar can be fined for a million reasons.  Just because some Penn State bars got fined for &quot;training,&quot; doesn&#039;t mean their bartenders don&#039;t know what they&#039;re doing.  The bar could get in trouble for their drink specials, serving drunk people, or not reporting their inventory well enough.  Try to think from a different point of view once in awhile, or do your fact checking. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you on pretty much all your points, but you&#039;re thinking as the customer who probably isn&#039;t even tipping.  Bars are busy, and often understaffed for the amount of college kids coming through demanding six LIT&#039;s at a time.  Bathrooms are gross, but that doesn&#039;t mean anyone has time to run out and clean your drunk friends&#039; vomit in the middle of peak times. Besides, if someone did go and do that, you&#039;d be waiting in that line for your drink even longer.</p>
<p>Oh, and a bar can be fined for a million reasons.  Just because some Penn State bars got fined for &quot;training,&quot; doesn&#039;t mean their bartenders don&#039;t know what they&#039;re doing.  The bar could get in trouble for their drink specials, serving drunk people, or not reporting their inventory well enough.  Try to think from a different point of view once in awhile, or do your fact checking.</p>
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		<title>By: AshleyB</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i battle the shitty cranberry vodka by asking for VODKA with a SPLASH of cranberry its a little more expensive but does the trick... ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i battle the shitty cranberry vodka by asking for VODKA with a SPLASH of cranberry its a little more expensive but does the trick&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Darwin - New York University</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Darwin - New York University]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed with Emily. I can see cleavage anywhere. When I want a drink, I want it fast and done right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed with Emily. I can see cleavage anywhere. When I want a drink, I want it fast and done right.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is so true! College bars really are the worst. I wonder if this will ever change. Probably not though. I also love the GuruCampus article on college students using tanning beds &lt;a href=&quot;http://gurucampus.com/comments.php?id=1326&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://gurucampus.com/comments.php?id=1326&lt;/a&gt;. What is wrong with the world? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so true! College bars really are the worst. I wonder if this will ever change. Probably not though. I also love the GuruCampus article on college students using tanning beds <a href="http://gurucampus.com/comments.php?id=1326" rel="nofollow">http://gurucampus.com/comments.php?id=1326</a>. What is wrong with the world?</p>
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